Fediverse

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Even if Lemmy grows to a point of being on the radar, theres still no hope for any real IP to lock down for anybody. The whole design is fairly antithetical to being taken over and turned into a cash cow of some kind, despite feeling very much like something centralized in terms of how we interact with it.

I agree with OP, and I think this can even become an even better repository for information than something like Reddit, because it’s more democratized and deters astroturfing or many types of malfeasance by design. Especially as it stands now, early on. Thats why I started a community for billiards. The reddit community for billiards, as well as old forum sites, are great wealths of information that is hard to otherwise find. It would be great to build something like that here over time

You're right, and it's infuriating that the AI scrapers are just so lazy/incompetent that they do things like try to scrape every dynamic page of a git repo instead of just cloning it. Similarly, they could just connect over ActivityPub and it wouldn't have much more overhead than another private instance.

There's Anubis which uses JavaScript to force browsers to do some work before they can access, but given how unpopular Cloudflare is around here, I imagine there'd be a lot of complaints if it was deployed on every instance.

Just to save people a rabbithole.

Kagi is pretty cool. But it’s not free. And for most people who don’t have much disposable income it’s not really a justifiable expense to pay for a search engine.

What's going on with lemmy.world?

Let's DO IT! :-)

I think about Reddit-style platforms being the centralized bulletin boards and forums of these days, and Lemmy is closest we have to a DIY kind of thing which is controlled by the community.

Back in the day only a sufficiently tech savvy person could set up and run a forum software. Now everyone can do it, and with the Fediverse it's all nicely interconnected, interoperable and truly free and open.

In general the Fediverse is the best shot we got right now to get back to the non-corporate Internet of my childhood and youth, I really hope it will succeed. And succeeding does not mean that it must grow and outcompete the commercial offerings, I think success is if enough motivated and interesting people join and participate. Quality > quantity.

And if downvotes bother you, that’s okay. There are plenty of instances that don’t show it, say lemmy.blahaj.zone.

Also, on some UI’s you can disable it even on instances that show it.

Preservation is so MASSIVELY important imo atm. With Internet Archive under fire, Reddit and Twitter closing APIs, Google shutting down fucking everything, we need OUR internet, not theirs and we need to protect that which is precious to us.

Same here, it'd have to be something AI-hardened, though, still.

Fedi-Overflow?

Stackiverse?

On the flip side, keeping your personal online footprint small is definitely more secure.

Maybe we need a soft kill switch to disassociate content with an account after x amount of time. Like for me personally, I've put zero effort into mopping up old content, and as often as I post, I'm sure someone with the desire could put the pieces together and dox me.

I've left it up anyway cuz I don't want to do to Lemmy what you're concerned about, but if I could nuke all my content older than a few months into an anonymous version, I'd be all for that. Leave the info up for anyone who might benefit from it, but scrub my username.

That said, for community building sake, I'd hate to see posts go anonymous right out the gate like some 4chan shit; and posts should be associated with an account at least long enough for mods to have a reasonable amount of time to take action against an account that breaks the rules. But again, posts that are months old? The conversation there is over - my personal involvement is moot at that point, it's just data now.

We can make a Fedi-Wiki that requires you to agree to the terms that everything you publish is considered public, kinda like a source code under GPL.

Edit: Lol I just remembered it's called Creative Commons. Its what Wikipedia uses.

This is a habit that prevalent everywhere, even on reddit. Only 20 or even 10 % of people produce content and rest just watch/consume. If we can have that kind of split on lemmy, it would be fine.

Yeah we need to pivot to being more open. But not even just Lemmy. Post anywhere. Anyone can build anything. The Fediverse isn't Lemmy. I posted on Piefed.social. :-)

Probably a similar reason 22 isn’t pronounced ‘Twoty Two’

And I think that's what we should do. Or even ask the question, search it on Google, and answer your own post! :-) We need to foster the Fediverse by existing in the Fediverse and stop depending on Big Tech or using them to help build OUR internet. :-)

Problem is that Lemmy/Fediverse simply doesn’t have the established depth and breadth of information that reddit does yet, and reddit does have it because it sort of killed the internet forums that would have existed foe those subjects.

That's the problem OP is asking you to help solve.

I'd like to see that happen. Search indexes will have to keep track of the fact, for instance, jlai.lu or infosec.pub are Lemmy instances despite the fact that they might not have "Lemmy" in the url, or even the page title.

It can be done of course, but it's not like with reddit.com, where anything at that domain is automatically associated with the keyword "Reddit."