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White House proposes giving out $5,000 checks to address falling birthrates amid growing ‘pronatalist’ movement

One of Donald Trump’s priorities for his second term is getting Americans to have more babies – and the White House has a new proposal to encourage them to do so: a $5,000 “baby bonus”.

The plan to give cash payments to mothers after delivery shows the growing influence of the “pronatalist” movement in the US, which, citing falling US birthrates, calls for “traditional” family values and for women – particularly white women – to have more children.

But experts say $5,000 checks won’t lead to a baby boom. Between unaffordable health care, soaring housing costs, inaccessible childcare and a lack of federal parental leave mandates, Americans face a swath of expensive hurdles that disincentivize them from having large families – or families at all – and that will require a much larger government investment to overcome.

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[–] Flamekebab@piefed.social 11 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Add at least one zero to that, ideally two.

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[–] synapse1278@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

No amount of money will convince a meaningful amount of people to have kids if they can't reasonably believe their children will have a good life. Climate disasters, pollution, financial struggle, no access to property, crushing work life, unemployment, racism, unfair public policies, regressing social rights. All of these have to be addressed seriously before you can even start dreaming about reaching replacement birth rate. Fascist governments will go for an easier solution: enslave women.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 10 points 1 month ago (3 children)

$5k a month, right? Right?

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[–] misteloct@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It should be 1 penny. It has the same exact effect on childbirth rates, has a greater demoralizing effect on Democrats who understand policy, and allows more money to be siphoned to billionaires in tax cuts, all of which are the real goals here.

When you want to piss off a waiter on Sunday morning after church, you don't leave a 5% tip. You leave a penny.

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 9 points 1 month ago

It's not a baby boom they are after. I used to think it was all about cheaper labor.

Nope. It's to tie up fathers and mothers so they are too busy to pay attention that people start starving, dying of disease, and disappearing.

The added benefit, if they can do it "their way" they kill multiple birds with one stone - A. Prevent the "white replacement theory" (wtf) B. Lower the number of people willing to fight against the Regime, C. Cheaper, younger labor pool hopefully educated enough to go into the military And that's about it.

Soft Eugenics. Genocide through "nature".

Won't work, but they're not the brightest people.

[–] Critical_Thinker@lemm.ee 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Wow, look at that! The price of strollers just went up 5k!

Replace strollers with basically anything related to birth or infants. 5k more to spend? 5k more to earn by big business selling wares.

This assumes the hospital doesn't determine that you seem to owe 5k more for that one out of network service provider they slipped in while you were distracted during birthing.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

$5k when having a kid costs $3k in insurance copays with a normal birth and average insurance. So you’re down to $2k before even leaving the hospital. This dude has all the intellectual depth and forethought of a mushroom.

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 6 points 1 month ago (3 children)

If $5000 is a lot to you, he's really not interested in there being more of "your type" of person.

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[–] ChillPenguin@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

I was told this was communism. And that this is bad.

[–] RedditIsDeddit@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Trump has no respect for anything

[–] whyrat@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

There's already an annual child tax credit: https://taxpolicycenter.org/briefing-book/what-child-tax-credit

I'm sure they didn't even check if birth rates are influenced by this...

[–] j0ester@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (4 children)

It really makes no sense of why they want to increase the population.. when close to 5% are unemployed, as more people is ready to work soon.

The only thing I can think of is they’re trying to sink the usd more, make it a country like China that is like manufacturing, and many Americans lost a huge chunk of salary (like what happened during the Great Depression).

[–] Carvex@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

There's not enough white babies for them. You're looking for financial logic when it's closer to white supremacy being out-birthed.

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