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[–] piratekaiser@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Look at history. You need a tipping point, but more importantly, you need organised masses and a vision/visionary to get behind.

That's how Lenin got in power. It's how the French decapitated their king. That's why there was a rally at the White house when trump lost the previous election but nobody is doing anything against him now at the states while he dismantles the country.

[–] alvvayson@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Correct, but there is a lot of nuance.

Indeed, when things get bad, the public is willing to take risks. When everything is good enough, they don't revolt.

However, successful revolts do require intelligent and capable leaders.

What the rich have realized, is that if they ensure smart and skilled kids get picked out of the drudgery and get comfortable working for the rich, then the exploited class will not really have anyone to lead them.

Put another way, in 1908, every factory had a few leaders working at the lowest levels. And they are the ones who spearheaded strikes and such.

Nowadays, society is really stratified in terms of skill.

Anyone who grew up poor, but had talent to organize, probably ended up in some kind of middle management or professional job and makes 2x the average.

Convincing these people to have class solidarity is difficult. Only a few of them actually see the bigger. Those tend to become middle or upper management or politicians, making 3-5x the average workers salary. And of those, only a very select few are willing to fight for the common man.

So yeah, the rich engineered a system that they can control. To actually change anything is going to be very difficult.

[–] Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Their meat is oily and diseased?

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You could also end up getting brain worms that way.

[–] Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

We can just make vaccines from autistic people

[–] bustAsh@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Some project 2025 authors were joking about making biofuel of the elderly and disabled..

[–] Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Generous of you to assume they were joking rather than testing the waters.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 months ago

Mostly because our ability to organize and unify against the wealthy is overwhelmed by the wealthy's tools to keep us factioned and distrustful of each other. Hence the necessity of the fascist enemy within rhetoric.

The problem is, we humans are simple emotional beings who are really credulous when it comes to being told stuff we want to hear, and the wealthy have crafted messaging catering to this bias and wishful thinking (hence "you are the chosen people and have to massacre all the others who are spiritual flesh-eating zombies")

That sounds way cooler to the lumpen-proletariat than "you're just another commoner, but if we work together we can topple the people who hoard all the stuff and make a fun themepark for everyone!"

[–] bedouin@infosec.pub 1 points 4 months ago

I so fucking love this so, so much

[–] teri@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm vegan - I compost the rich.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Remember, even herbivores are opportunistic carnivores on occasion. ☺️

[–] teri@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 4 months ago

For self-defense it's actually okay.