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[–] YoiksAndAway@lemmy.zip 43 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Admittedly, I don't know much about modern speedboats, but the full flip probably saved their lives. In the old days, flipping onto your head at damn near 200 mph was certain death.

[–] xploit@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yea that flip and rotation definitely saved them, you can see in the video they slow down drastically in the air while the top of the boat was pointing mostly forward, although they likely also experienced some drastic gforce changes as it happened.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, I was gonna say, did the pilot live?

Good number of hydroplane/powerboat deaths/maimings over the years...

[–] Samskara@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Both lived and were not seriously injured.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And that is what I would describe as the only kind of miracle I believe can actually happen.

Roughly on par with 'bailed out of an airplane, crashed through some trees, landed in a snowbank, only suffered a few fractures and actually lived.'

Something like that happened a few times in WW2.

[–] Samskara@sh.itjust.works -3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

These guys wore safety gear and were strapped in. Read tha article

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

He described the relief of seeing both people on board the boat pop open the hatch. “Oh my gosh, it’s just a miracle,” Ticknor said.

Ticknor being the event organizer.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=sSl2846EPl4

The pilots suffered multiple fractures, including a broken knee.

I'd call a broken knee alone a serious injury...

Had their injuries been more serious, they may have been unable to escape the sinking boat.

Had the boat landed in a different orientation, or done a different, completely undpredictable, uncontrolled aerial manuever, such that it impacted the water with more speed, the boat could have broken apart on landing or become structurally comprised much more seriously, and thus the pilots would be sinking much more rapidly, likely with more serious injuries.

Though this boat and its safety cage performed admirably in terms of structural stability... similar crashes to this have maimed and killed a good number of folks in the history of hydroplane/powerboat events.

[–] ElcaineVolta@kbin.melroy.org 9 points 1 day ago (6 children)

k, it's time to wind down the whole we're-just-burning-fossil-fuels-for-fun stuff now.

[–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 day ago

i doubt the actual motorsports are the biggest carbon emissions of stuff like this

[–] CmdrShepard42@lemm.ee 8 points 20 hours ago

A lot of these racing applications are what drive innovations in power and efficiency in the rest of the automotive field since they're constantly improving engines to squeeze as much power out of them as they can. Banning this stuff will have little to no impact on pollution and just needlessly piss a bunch of people off, driving allies away from the cause.

It's like the whole plastic straw ban that achieved nothing and made a bunch of people look like fools. Meanwhile, giant corporations are packaging items in single-use plastic packaging and using 10,000x as much plastic with nary a peep from those politicians' grandstanding over straws. Furthermore, every paper straw I've ever gotten has been wrapped in a plastic bag.

[–] Goretantath@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I mean, i'm certainly ok with a fully electric motorboat

[–] CmdrShepard42@lemm.ee 0 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

What do you do if you run out of electricity while out on the water? At least with an EV you can get out and walk but that's a different story on a boat.

[–] Halcyon@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 12 hours ago

Same what you do when your boat runs out of gasoline? Doesn't matter what powers your engine if you don't watch your tank or battery level you will have a problem.

Apart from that: This is about racing boats. They're never alone somewhere on the open sea.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Check out SailGP. It's got some flaws, but they did actually manage to design a sailboat race that goes fast enough to actually be interesting to watch in real-time.

flaws

  • I have my doubts that it's as eco-friendly as they claim, since they still use fossil fuels for support boats, shipping the sailboats across the world between events, etc.
  • It's pretty new and seems a little underfunded, so the production values and commentating can be a bit rough around the edges.
  • They try to make it accessible (e.g. by reporting speeds in kph instead of knots), but it's still got a whiff of yacht-club elitism to it.
[–] lilsolar@sh.itjust.works 1 points 13 hours ago

"STOP HAVING FUN!!"

[–] burgersc12@mander.xyz 0 points 1 day ago

That time was like 30 years ago. Now we can either stop using them altogether and have a bad time, or we can keep using them and have a slightly more bad time.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I guess these guys have never heard of ground effect or air compressing at high speed.

I'm guessing none of them want to admit to these effects if you want to keep a propeller in the water the whole time.

[–] Undearius@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Those effects are key to the design of these boats. They're essentially a wing.

Water has a lot more drag than air, so the more the boat is out of the water, the faster it can go.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago

Though it makes me wonder why they don't use actual wings to maintain control over the boat when it goes too far out of the water. Why isn't the ideal basically a plane that has a propeller sticking down into the water?

[–] BigMikeInAustin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Eh, anyone can do that mid-air. It takes skill to do it quarter-air.

/s

[–] thatradomguy@lemmy.world 0 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Sadly, they didn't win the Darwin award. There's always next year.

[–] Baylahoo@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 hours ago

Were these terrible people or are you just wishing death on random people for making a poor choice for their own safety?

[–] tal@lemmy.today 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

In all seriousness, I think that there might be a good argument, in 2025, for converting races, be they car or boat or whatnot, to be remotely-driven.

We've got the technology today.

It'd permit for higher speeds and suchlike, and eliminate some requirements.

The audience doesn't get the drama of the driver maybe being killed in an accident, but by-and-large, blood sport has faded into history.

There are clearly some people who watch racing for the crashes


but it's possible to have the crashes and have vehicles potentially destroyed without the drivers being killed too.

[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That defeats the whole point.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hahahah no. Humans haven't changed. We still love to gawk at death and pain. We just don't want to admit it directly.

Rubber-neckers slowing down the highway for a crash on the other side aren't doing it to make sure they are safe. They are hoping to spot some gore.

[–] Xanthrax@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Unless you like TOOL.

"I want to watch things die from a good safe distance. Vicariously, I live while the whole world dies."

[–] Goretantath@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago

If theres no risk of complete assholes burning up or crumpling into a pancake during a car race then the race sucks ass.

[–] froh42@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

Reminds me of the flying Mercedes CLR:

https://youtu.be/a9vD0R1fvZw