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[–] Fijxu@programming.dev 115 points 1 month ago (4 children)
[–] victorz@lemmy.world 35 points 1 month ago

Curious to know what this email conversation looks like. 🍿

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

I mean, "fuck you OnlyFans" seems correct phrasing

git clone this before it gets taken down

[–] TxzK@lemmy.zip 98 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Codeberg exists. But no people still have to just flock to corporate bullshit and then be surprised when they pull a corporate bullshit.

[–] cmhe@lemmy.world 40 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Codeberg is great, but it is hosted in Germany, and subject to their laws. AFAIK, Germany has laws against tools for "circumventing copy protection", or "hacking".

So I am not sure that they can provide a save haven for tools, where some lawyer could argue these points successfully in front of a court.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 7 points 1 month ago

ActivityPub is amazing for censorship because anything that gets posted to one instance gets immediately archived thousands of times over.

[–] Whirling_Cloudburst@lemmy.world 70 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (8 children)

There needs to be a widespread p2p solution for opensource projects before its too late. I have lost count of all the amazing stuff that has been gravity bombed from orbit.

There also needs to be a way for authors to submit things anonymously too and maybe sign their things with cryptographic keys to ID it. How many times has a company had a court order someone to cease and desist or simply acquire somebody's work?

[–] solrize@lemmy.world 71 points 1 month ago (3 children)

p2p solution for opensource projects

That's called Git and it's been around longer than GitHub. There is also Usenet which by now is mostly dead. People fell for centralized alternatives. Oops :)

[–] Womble@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago

Git is, but it has no process of discovery or hosting by itself. Those are needed to efficiently share open source software to large numbers of people.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You'd think Usenet is dead.
It's not.

[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 1 points 1 month ago

Oh boy it's not! But mainly for binaries

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I found https://radicle.xyz/ but I've never used this technology before. Maybe someone can shed some light?

[–] vividspecter@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago

It's not always takedowns either, just the developer deciding to nuke their own repos. Real annoying, although it's making me more vigilant about forking/mirroring important repos.

[–] muusemuuse@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago

I2p has a git service

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

All you need for this is a global overlay network and a global DNS untied from physical infrastructure. Cryptographic identities (hash of pubkey will do) instead of IP addresses (because NATs are PITA and too many people use mobile devices behind big bad NATs), and finding (in something like Kademlia) records signed by authority you yourself chose to trust instead of asking DNS.

Then come encryption and dynamic routing and synchronization of published states.

One can have some kind of Kademlia for discovery of projects too, but on the next level.

I2P comes close, but it's more focused on anonymity.

OK, I'm not sure what I wrote makes sense. These things are easy to grasp somehow, but hard to understand well.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

OK, I'm not sure what I wrote makes sense. These things are easy to grasp somehow, but hard to understand well.

yeah it seems you forgot what you wanted to say midway.

to extend on it, I2P, Tor and other mixnets provide the only safe way currently to host projects that others don't like, because such sites cannot be taken down. that's both a blessing and a curse

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

I wanted to say something about easily hosting searchable repositories, and solving a few of the problems because of which the Web as it exists still has users.

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[–] Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 68 points 1 month ago (1 children)

sent a complaint

project has been ejected

Bad pattern.

The moment when GitHub was bought by M$, the risk of such behavior started.

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 14 points 1 month ago

To GitHub’s credit, when rightsholders allege violations of the DMCA’s anti-circumvention provisions, GitHub conducts its own assessment. If there is no basis for a claim, GitHub sometimes finds other copyright-related grounds, but here there is no pushback. That’s usually a sign of a complaint that stands up under intense scrutiny.

[–] ChickenAndRice@sh.itjust.works 49 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I was wondering why these types of open source projects always push to Github, despite the latter always complying with DMCA. (I get that Github provides discoverabilty features, but it just isn't worth it to have all your work taken down).

On a similar note, has anyone tried out https://radicle.xyz/? It's supposed to actually make use of git's peer to peer nature (and not the client server model that everyone adopts with git) and ideally provide discoverability features.

The said I've only read the faq and haven't actually tried it myself. Basically I'm wondering if it's worth doing a deep dive on this technology

[–] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Give CodeBerg a look. It's starting to pick up some steam.

https://codeberg.org/

[–] Eyedust@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

A lot of my favorite open source android apps have been switching to CodeBerg. Some of my less than legal ones have moved to Telegram, unfortunately. That aside, CodeBerg is great and hopefully it will gain even more traction soon.

It's nice that Obtainium supports CodeBerg, too. I have a few must-have apps that I like to keep up to date straight from their repositories.

[–] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Some of my less than legal ones have moved to Telegram

I'm intrigued

[–] Eyedust@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 month ago

Lol, its just my manga/anime apps. You can still find some of the repositories on github, but they moved all updates to TG. They also request users to not put the app name on any social media to avoid what happened to Tachiyomi.

There's a large sweep going on with anime piracy atm, too. Github has been obliterating apps left and right.

[–] Matty_r@programming.dev 6 points 1 month ago

CodeBerg is a public instance of Forgejo. You can run your own local instance of Forgejo.

At some point they'll have federation working so you'll be able to use your home instance of Forgejo to interact with other projects/instances.

[–] spicehoarder@lemm.ee 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It doesn't catch on because entry level devs love committing private keys

[–] SirQuack@feddit.nl 2 points 1 month ago

But how else am I to verify my trust? I trust GitHub!

/s

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago

This just implies that the Microsoft employee was an OnlyFans subscriber simp.

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