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[–] Fingolfinz@lemmy.world 196 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Really proud of Canada not going down the same path my dumb ass country did

[–] Pilferjinx@lemmy.world 89 points 12 hours ago (5 children)

It wasn't by a large margin.. Canadians are turning fascist just like a lot of other countries.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 77 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

Yes, we narrowly avoided going down the Trump route this time, but I don't find this picture particularly encouraging (NDP, Green and BQ are the three most progressive parties):

collapsed inline mediaChange in seats between last election and this election (projected)

Source: National Post

It's not straightforward to understand that, since this is a chart of seats not votes, and you can get weird effects with first-past-the-post and strategic voting, but it certainly looks like the electorate is moving rightwards at the expense of progressives.

[–] cornshark@lemmy.world 19 points 12 hours ago (6 children)

Maybe the left is realizing that they are fighting for really critical human rights, their autonomy and their country, so it's time to stop splitting the vote among marginal left wing parties?

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 38 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (2 children)

Certainly there's a lot of strategic voting going on. But you don't see the Liberal (centrist) seat count increasing as the NDP goes down: the gains are all with the Conservatives. If it were a matter of progressives deciding to just consolidate with Liberals, you'd expect to see the Liberal seat count go up as the smaller parties went down. To me this suggests either that some people are flipping directly from left to right or that there is a general rightwards drift, with right-wing Liberals going over to Conservatives and left-wing strategic voters filling in some of the gap they leave for the Liberals. In either case it's concerning that when the Conservatives fielded their most far-right leader so far, their share of the seats went up.

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[–] Lazhward@lemmy.world 10 points 7 hours ago

But splitting the vote isn't an issue with proportional representation is it? If the libs lose one seat to the greens that's still one seat not occupied by the cons.

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[–] Amberskin@europe.pub 30 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Until social networks are mare criminally liable for the crap they spew this won’t be turned around.

[–] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 12 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

They all have to be sued nonstop for slander, defamation, and high treason or else all their leaders and pundits dragged into the streets and beaten to death in front of their kids. Waiting for society to right itself is never gonna happen.

[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 10 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

I’m hoping the margin was tight because most people, even the ones who voted liberal, held their nose as they did it. We don’t like a party being in charge for this long, but the alternative is worse and worse every election. Pierre poilievre was however the worst and most dickish conservative I’ve seen in a while, so I hate how close this was.

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Conservatives still winning over 40% of all votes total. Definitely a very bad sign.

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[–] vividspecter@lemm.ee 36 points 13 hours ago

Hopefully Australia follows suit, as we have our own Temu Trump in opposition coming into our election.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 126 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (5 children)

Narrowly.

Are you guys not horrified of what’s happening south? If you interpret this as a win and go on, your country is going to be mega conservative in like a decade.

No, this is an existential crisis, and you need to shut off the propaganda machines before it’s too late.

[–] namingthingsiseasy@programming.dev 41 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Agreed. Incumbents always do worse in the next election. Makes me shudder to think what the result of the next election is going to be. Trudeau's latest term was really bad and they got no punishment for it whatsoever thanks to the gift from the south. And Canada seems to be moving further and further away from proportional representation. So who will voters swing to next election?

Great result for today's Canadians. Terrifying result for future Canadians.

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[–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 38 points 7 hours ago

Quite true. The reason for celebration is that had the conservatives won they were planning to defund our public broadcaster right off the bat. We need all kinds of reforms but having the CBC around to report on them will be quite important.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 15 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

What do you mean "narrowly"? It's a clean victory and the trumpist conservative leader lost his own riding.

[–] Knoxvomica@lemmy.ca 11 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Look, we've had the liberals for ten years now. Theyve won 4 elections at this point. It's amazing they won anything at all this time.

[–] jellygoose@lemmy.ca 35 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Justin fatigue was real. Carney coming in, demolishing the only thing the conservative dingdongs were campaigning about and just being overall a very respectable candidate turned things around. Along with the orange monkey down there.

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[–] Draegur@lemm.ee 86 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

lol suck it conservaturds.

thank you, canada, for not following america's path to ruin.

[–] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 16 points 11 hours ago

Yet. Stay vigilant

[–] namingthingsiseasy@programming.dev 66 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Ironically, Trudeau hanging around for a long as he did may have saved Canada. If this election had happened in the middle of last year, the Conservatives would have probably won and combined with Trump, it would have been a disaster. Possibly the smartest/luckiest thing he has ever done.

[–] meep_launcher@lemm.ee 14 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

At the end of the day it all comes down to the role of the dice.

[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 20 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

in this case it was the early voter turnout and the special ballots that really lifted it. And we cannot ever forget Bloc. They did a huge push on this one. No one hates Trump quite as much as Quebecois and they showed it 20 fold. Quite a ride watching all this. Especially what with the cyber attacks on the PM during this short campaign was relentless as was the propaganda radios. It honestly should be a case study on how out of control the propaganda was getting on X and facebook.

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[–] pixxelkick@lemmy.world 62 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (7 children)

The big key is gonna be if we get that sweet 172 seats with Lib+Green+NDP, we are only 1 seat short

If we hit that mark it means, hilariously, the one single green seat is needed to form a majority government without bloc's help needed

Which will force liberal party to play ball with NDP and Green Party's more progressive policies.

That's our ideal scenario, conservatives are told to go kick rocks, and green/ndp get an actual voice on decision making to push the country in a progressive direction.

One. More. Seat!

[–] pixxelkick@lemmy.world 44 points 13 hours ago (9 children)

Atm we got it, this is the magic sweet spot where we want to be

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172 seats exactly with lib+ndp+green

and conservatives can't even threaten a vote of non confidence with bloc's help. (1 vote short)

But they could trigger it with that 1 green seat's help, which means liberals have to stay on the good side of that 1 green seat XD

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[–] Inaminate_Carbon_Rod@lemmy.world 61 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Australian chiming in here and we have an election in a few days time.

The current Opposition Leader is running on a platform of Trump Wannabee.

I really really hope our country tells him to stick it up his fucking ass.

[–] Allemaniac@lemmy.world 21 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

rooting for you aussies. Love and strength from Germany <3

[–] Inaminate_Carbon_Rod@lemmy.world 16 points 6 hours ago

Cheers dude. We have to come together across all borders to end this shit.

[–] jellygoose@lemmy.ca 18 points 6 hours ago

Let’s go mates. Kick them bootlicker asses.

[–] andallthat@lemmy.world 41 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

Sky news spin: haha, Carney was actually Trump's win! I can't make this shit up (but apparently Sky news can...)

[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 26 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Daddy hasn't told them what to say yet and these kinds of outlets don't know how to think for themselves anymore. And at this point it's pretty much all news outlets based out of the US don't know what to say without him.

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 9 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

You’d have to be trying hard to forget your media literacy to think that was spin.

It’s a device that’s saying the Trump issue is the major one in the election. Trump, and how voters feel about him, is what is driving one party or the other to victory.

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[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 37 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

I cannot wait to see how the Trump admin will spin this. Either that or they have a meltdown and immediately call it a rigged election. Bonus points if he tells Canadians to storm their capital.

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 23 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

They are 100% going to say our election was rigged, and our idiots are going to believe them.

[–] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 9 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Club your idiots with baseball bats. Or cricket bats. Or whatever bats you use up there.

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[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 11 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

I'll be a little surprised if he addresses it more than a passing comment - the US conservative population doesn't actually give a shit about canada (unless they're told to be mad about it for some specific scapegoaty reason, but they'll just forget. Like they've all forgotten about the lumber issues, or eggs, or how 'canada is killing the US garment industry' that one was cute...). At this point he's got enough other things to distract them with, so why waste his very limited attention span on something he's declared a solved issue?

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[–] modifier@lemmy.ca 37 points 12 hours ago

Finally something to celebrate in this general vicinity. Congratulations, Canada.

[–] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 35 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (2 children)

Bro I need gaslighting lessons from PP; how is he losing his riding, losing an election he has polled 20+ points in the lead in for almost two years, and yet gives a speech where he not only says he will stay on as leader, but makes it seem like losing the election was his desired outcome??

Really sad about Jagmeet and the NDP wipeout tbh. I know why it happened, but if I'm not mistaken the universal pharma and dentalcare we have now were initiatives pushed by the NDP that the Liberals get credit for because they were the ones holding the PM seat.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 15 points 10 hours ago

but if I’m not mistaken the universal pharma and dentalcare we have now were initiatives pushed by the NDP that the Liberals get credit for because they were the ones holding the PM seat.

No one who has any political awareness would give the liberals credit for that. That was the NDP's contribution.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 11 points 8 hours ago

"if I'm not mistaken"

That's how the NDP loses, even someone who seems to have a minimum of interest in politics isn't sure that it was the NDP that got us that. Yes, they forced Trudeau's hand on that question.

[–] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 32 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (2 children)

I'm happy for you Canada.

You succeeded with America couldn't.

Are y'all accepting asylum for programmers / tech professionals?

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[–] HalfSalesman@lemm.ee 23 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Fuck man, I wish I could afford move to Canada right now.

[–] twice_hatch@midwest.social 12 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

I can but they won't let my friends in. I didn't realize until I looked into it but national borders are actually quite rigid

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[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 12 points 3 hours ago (2 children)
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[–] TripleIris@lemmy.wtf 9 points 3 hours ago (4 children)

This feels like a short-term win but a long-term loss. Carney is a centrist, a former banker that's in to a lot of conservative ideas. He feels like Biden 2.0, the conservatives only losing because of Trump's unhinged rantings. MAGA-ism has gained a huge foothold in Canada, and turning to a do nothing centrist is only going to do so much.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 11 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

that's in to a lot of conservative ideas

Fiscal conservative ideas, maybe.

Socially he's relatively liberal. Maybe not quite as much as Trudeau, but nowhere near what the CPC has become.

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