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[–] pixxelkick@lemmy.world 44 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Atm we got it, this is the magic sweet spot where we want to be

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172 seats exactly with lib+ndp+green

and conservatives can't even threaten a vote of non confidence with bloc's help. (1 vote short)

But they could trigger it with that 1 green seat's help, which means liberals have to stay on the good side of that 1 green seat XD

[–] trashboat@midwest.social 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Hopefully there won’t be a Joe Manchin situation where just one of the liberals starts siding with the conservatives on just about everything to negate the majority (though I may be misinterpreting how the system works, I’m not super aware of how Canada’s legislature functions)

I blame Manchin alone for a lot of what we weren’t able to get done under Biden

[–] pixxelkick@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago

If any vote ever fails in our government, it triggers an instant re-election. It's called the Vote of Non Confidence

It's probably one of the most key parts of why our government is a little bit more resistant to clown-showing, because even a small crack in the parliament triggers a new election.

So bills can only be tabled if the gov is 100% confident it will have the votes.

Which means the conservatives could table a bill if they knew the NDP + Bloc would side with them on it, as then they have the votes to pass it.

But since it's the NDP, a very progressive party, it means they actually hold that fine balance of mediating power between liberals and conservatives.

It's pretty solid actually, and makes it so everyone the entire term could pass a reasonable bill.

Pretty sure this last term the conservatives and liberals did agree on some stuff and some bills passed with both approving it, iirc.

I think forcing them to occasionally work together like that helps temper the fascism lol.

[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

How is the green party in canada? Actually good or like in the US?

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Not as wacko as in the US, but they had some weird new age candidates at some point.

[–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

You're conveniently leaving out the fact that the federal Greens spent the last several years destroying itself through infighting. Remember the leader that was elected to replace the long suffering Elizabeth May who then stole a bunch of money, started a bunch of law suits against the party and then May had to take back over under a joint leadership?

They're a novelty party, not a party of governance.

(I have voted Green several times, but never again in their current arrangement)

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Sure, but go check what the US Green party is to compare and you'll realize that the Canadian party isn't so bad

[–] kandykarter@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Using "well at least it's not as bad in America" in these contexts is both dismissive of valid criticism and also a staggeringly low bar

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago

But if you go check I was replying to someone asking for a comparison.

[–] pixxelkick@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

The 1 seat they got was in the green party stronghold (co leaders home town)

I have zero clue what her platform is, prolly environmentalist tho.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 25 minutes ago

Generally to the left of the NDP. Kinda unrealistic, TBH, because they don't have to worry about costing it or carrying it through.