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[–] Fingolfinz@lemmy.world 168 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Really proud of Canada not going down the same path my dumb ass country did

[–] Pilferjinx@lemmy.world 75 points 8 hours ago (5 children)

It wasn't by a large margin.. Canadians are turning fascist just like a lot of other countries.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 65 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

Yes, we narrowly avoided going down the Trump route this time, but I don't find this picture particularly encouraging (NDP, Green and BQ are the three most progressive parties):

collapsed inline mediaChange in seats between last election and this election (projected)

Source: National Post

It's not straightforward to understand that, since this is a chart of seats not votes, and you can get weird effects with first-past-the-post and strategic voting, but it certainly looks like the electorate is moving rightwards at the expense of progressives.

[–] cornshark@lemmy.world 19 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

Maybe the left is realizing that they are fighting for really critical human rights, their autonomy and their country, so it's time to stop splitting the vote among marginal left wing parties?

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 31 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (2 children)

Certainly there's a lot of strategic voting going on. But you don't see the Liberal (centrist) seat count increasing as the NDP goes down: the gains are all with the Conservatives. If it were a matter of progressives deciding to just consolidate with Liberals, you'd expect to see the Liberal seat count go up as the smaller parties went down. To me this suggests either that some people are flipping directly from left to right or that there is a general rightwards drift, with right-wing Liberals going over to Conservatives and left-wing strategic voters filling in some of the gap they leave for the Liberals. In either case it's concerning that when the Conservatives fielded their most far-right leader so far, their share of the seats went up.

[–] Allemaniac@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago

In either case it’s concerning that when the Conservatives fielded their most far-right leader so far, their share of the seats went up.

It's not surprising at all, the 2 conservative parties in Germany are the most far-right and second most far-right parties. They host politicians who are grandsons and granddaughters of real Nazi SS officers (like the leader of the AfD: Alice Weidel, her grandpa was directly responsible for thousands of civilian deaths as military judge and prosecuter and later chief military judge for Adolf fucking Hitler. They copy their talking points one to one and would love to see people dissappear, who are not looking like them. Conservatives, for the most part, are atrociously far-right.

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[–] Lazhward@lemmy.world 8 points 3 hours ago

But splitting the vote isn't an issue with proportional representation is it? If the libs lose one seat to the greens that's still one seat not occupied by the cons.

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[–] Amberskin@europe.pub 26 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Until social networks are mare criminally liable for the crap they spew this won’t be turned around.

[–] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 9 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

They all have to be sued nonstop for slander, defamation, and high treason or else all their leaders and pundits dragged into the streets and beaten to death in front of their kids. Waiting for society to right itself is never gonna happen.

[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I’m hoping the margin was tight because most people, even the ones who voted liberal, held their nose as they did it. We don’t like a party being in charge for this long, but the alternative is worse and worse every election. Pierre poilievre was however the worst and most dickish conservative I’ve seen in a while, so I hate how close this was.

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Conservatives still winning over 40% of all votes total. Definitely a very bad sign.

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[–] vividspecter@lemm.ee 34 points 9 hours ago

Hopefully Australia follows suit, as we have our own Temu Trump in opposition coming into our election.

[–] Draegur@lemm.ee 82 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

lol suck it conservaturds.

thank you, canada, for not following america's path to ruin.

[–] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 13 points 7 hours ago

Yet. Stay vigilant

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 73 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (4 children)

Narrowly.

Are you guys not horrified of what’s happening south? If you interpret this as a win and go on, your country is going to be mega conservative in like a decade.

No, this is an existential crisis, and you need to shut off the propaganda machines before it’s too late.

Agreed. Incumbents always do worse in the next election. Makes me shudder to think what the result of the next election is going to be. Trudeau's latest term was really bad and they got no punishment for it whatsoever thanks to the gift from the south. And Canada seems to be moving further and further away from proportional representation. So who will voters swing to next election?

Great result for today's Canadians. Terrifying result for future Canadians.

[–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 16 points 3 hours ago

Quite true. The reason for celebration is that had the conservatives won they were planning to defund our public broadcaster right off the bat. We need all kinds of reforms but having the CBC around to report on them will be quite important.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

What do you mean "narrowly"? It's a clean victory and the trumpist conservative leader lost his own riding.

[–] Knoxvomica@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Look, we've had the liberals for ten years now. Theyve won 4 elections at this point. It's amazing they won anything at all this time.

[–] jellygoose@lemmy.ca 16 points 2 hours ago

Justin fatigue was real. Carney coming in, demolishing the only thing the conservative dingdongs were campaigning about and just being overall a very respectable candidate turned things around. Along with the orange monkey down there.

[–] pixxelkick@lemmy.world 57 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (7 children)

The big key is gonna be if we get that sweet 172 seats with Lib+Green+NDP, we are only 1 seat short

If we hit that mark it means, hilariously, the one single green seat is needed to form a majority government without bloc's help needed

Which will force liberal party to play ball with NDP and Green Party's more progressive policies.

That's our ideal scenario, conservatives are told to go kick rocks, and green/ndp get an actual voice on decision making to push the country in a progressive direction.

One. More. Seat!

[–] pixxelkick@lemmy.world 41 points 9 hours ago (6 children)

Atm we got it, this is the magic sweet spot where we want to be

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172 seats exactly with lib+ndp+green

and conservatives can't even threaten a vote of non confidence with bloc's help. (1 vote short)

But they could trigger it with that 1 green seat's help, which means liberals have to stay on the good side of that 1 green seat XD

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[–] Zenith@lemm.ee 5 points 8 hours ago

If only they would embrace nuclear!

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[–] Inaminate_Carbon_Rod@lemmy.world 40 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Australian chiming in here and we have an election in a few days time.

The current Opposition Leader is running on a platform of Trump Wannabee.

I really really hope our country tells him to stick it up his fucking ass.

[–] Allemaniac@lemmy.world 13 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

rooting for you aussies. Love and strength from Germany <3

[–] Inaminate_Carbon_Rod@lemmy.world 11 points 2 hours ago

Cheers dude. We have to come together across all borders to end this shit.

[–] jellygoose@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 hours ago

Let’s go mates. Kick them bootlicker asses.

[–] andallthat@lemmy.world 36 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

Sky news spin: haha, Carney was actually Trump's win! I can't make this shit up (but apparently Sky news can...)

[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 25 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Daddy hasn't told them what to say yet and these kinds of outlets don't know how to think for themselves anymore. And at this point it's pretty much all news outlets based out of the US don't know what to say without him.

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 9 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

You’d have to be trying hard to forget your media literacy to think that was spin.

It’s a device that’s saying the Trump issue is the major one in the election. Trump, and how voters feel about him, is what is driving one party or the other to victory.

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[–] Trihilis@ani.social 8 points 8 hours ago

Is just treat any US and UK news outlet as the Onion these days.

[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 36 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

I cannot wait to see how the Trump admin will spin this. Either that or they have a meltdown and immediately call it a rigged election. Bonus points if he tells Canadians to storm their capital.

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 21 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

They are 100% going to say our election was rigged, and our idiots are going to believe them.

[–] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 7 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Club your idiots with baseball bats. Or cricket bats. Or whatever bats you use up there.

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[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 10 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

I'll be a little surprised if he addresses it more than a passing comment - the US conservative population doesn't actually give a shit about canada (unless they're told to be mad about it for some specific scapegoaty reason, but they'll just forget. Like they've all forgotten about the lumber issues, or eggs, or how 'canada is killing the US garment industry' that one was cute...). At this point he's got enough other things to distract them with, so why waste his very limited attention span on something he's declared a solved issue?

[–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

I think it would depend on whether Canada's new government is willing to play ball. If they're not willing to kiss Trump's ass and give America the preferential treatment that he's trying to extort from the country, there's going to be more than just a one-off passing comment about it. Probably a woe-is-me "Canada is taking advantage of us" campaign, I reckon.

[–] modifier@lemmy.ca 35 points 8 hours ago

Finally something to celebrate in this general vicinity. Congratulations, Canada.

[–] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 31 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (2 children)

Bro I need gaslighting lessons from PP; how is he losing his riding, losing an election he has polled 20+ points in the lead in for almost two years, and yet gives a speech where he not only says he will stay on as leader, but makes it seem like losing the election was his desired outcome??

Really sad about Jagmeet and the NDP wipeout tbh. I know why it happened, but if I'm not mistaken the universal pharma and dentalcare we have now were initiatives pushed by the NDP that the Liberals get credit for because they were the ones holding the PM seat.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 14 points 6 hours ago

but if I’m not mistaken the universal pharma and dentalcare we have now were initiatives pushed by the NDP that the Liberals get credit for because they were the ones holding the PM seat.

No one who has any political awareness would give the liberals credit for that. That was the NDP's contribution.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 10 points 4 hours ago

"if I'm not mistaken"

That's how the NDP loses, even someone who seems to have a minimum of interest in politics isn't sure that it was the NDP that got us that. Yes, they forced Trudeau's hand on that question.

[–] namingthingsiseasy@programming.dev 19 points 54 minutes ago (1 children)

Ironically, Trudeau hanging around for a long as he did may have saved Canada. If this election had happened in the middle of last year, the Conservatives would have probably won and combined with Trump, it would have been a disaster. Possibly the smartest/luckiest thing he has ever done.

[–] meep_launcher@lemm.ee 5 points 45 minutes ago

At the end of the day it all comes down to the role of the dice.

[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 9 points 9 hours ago

Go Canada!!

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