If only there were websites that don't care /s.
this post was submitted on 24 Apr 2025
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I do wonder how Lemmy would be impacted by an influx of DMCA complaints. Instances would have to delete the content but I don't think they have the manpower to do so.
Instances like dbzer0 could also get taken down by complaining to the VPS provider if the instance operators wouldn't comply.
Our provider doesn't care for dmcas
First of all thank you for hosting this instance.
PS: Irrelevant rambling without a point below.
I don't know how French/EU equivalents to DMCA take down requests work and how trigger-happy OVH is. Given services like real-debrid still operate, it won't be as bad. From what I've heard Hetzner is quite strict when it comes to complaints, so I assume OVH is better.
It's good that you don't allow direct linking to pirate content. It seems to me that on most platforms communities are closed prematurely to avoid further annoyances/complaints, even if they follow the law (like here).
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db0 addressed this recently. The fun thing about the fediverse is that content is cached on all the different servers. In the case of ActivityPub it's potentially thousands, and not even clear which ones it is or how many. So the complainant would have to go and order DMCA takedowns for each individual server. So the db0 server could be shut down completely but all of its' content would still be readily accessible.
Not sure of the legality of "making an example" of a specific server like db0. I think they probably have to make a DMCA request and then prove that you failed to comply but I'm not a lawyer.
We're not American, and as far as I know luxembourg doesn't have dmca laws. But we anyway don't allow direct linking to pirated content. Only discussion of said content and linking to tlds
What about your DNS provider?
Typically it takes a lot more for dns to be lost. Let's hope it never comes to that, especially since we don't actually allow links to pirate content
We are legally allowed to share links to pirated content, even in the US.
Maybe but they're always making up new things to sue people for and have their content removed.
Complaints are just complaints.
You're allowed to link to and discuss pirated content as much as you want. You can give all the guides and information in the world on how to pirate and how to do it safely.
Corporate scum know random people will get scared from seeing official letters, so they use it as an intimidation tactic to get what they want. That's what should really be illegal, but we live in a backwards society that loves abuse for some stupid reasons.
So, as a moderator for !manga@ani.social, I have been trying to keep tabs on how this has been developing over on reddit (especially /r/manga).
I believe that if a publisher were to request content or posts to be removed, it would most likely be directed to the instance admin. In my community's case, that would be @hitagi@ani.social. It would then be up to them whether to or how to remove the content. If it isn't a formal DMCA or if they are in a jurisdiction not bound by the DMCA, then they could always choose not to take action. If they did decide to remove the content, then the next decision facing them would be how to remove it.
One option would be to "remove" it (no different than a community moderator removing things like spam). This action would federate out to other lemmy servers and remove it there as well. The other option that is available to instance admins is to "purge" it. This removes the content from the local server, but does not federate that removal out to other instances. So, the offending content would still be available to the rest of the fediverse since it was federated out and the publisher would have to go play whack-a-mole with every instance out there. The purge option would definitely be the malicious compliance route.
I doubt they would care about Lemmy, there is hardy anyone on manga@ani.social compared to /r/manga. Posts of One Punch for example have over a 100 comments while on manga@ani.social there is no comments. If manga@ani.social becomes popular they will probably go after it, now it is probably not worth the hassle.
All out of sympathy for lost souls still milling about reddit.
Corpos gonna corpo and censorship regime is just one tool of oppression
Don't let them suppress our freedom of speech.
Sharing is important to fighting back, that's why they don't want us to do it.
That's not freedom of speech.
Freedom of speech means you can criticize the government without fear of repercussions.
Last I checked, reddit ≠ government
Freedom of speech isn't limited to what's written in the US constitution nor is it only applicable to governments.
Yes it is. That's reality for you. If Free Speech was applicable outside the government - how come you can be banned for what you say on social media, huh?
Sounds like someone doesn't know the constitution and comes off as a sovereign citizen.
The japanese publishers are ruthless, as well as the Korean webtoon.
I'll never forget they were able to get in sadpanda to strike everything from Wani.