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[–] meyotch@slrpnk.net 156 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

They acted like friends for years, but wouldn’t stand up for us at the first sign of trouble.

How are we supposed to feel and act?

Frankly, we are being a bit too mature about it

[–] frickineh@lemmy.world 106 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I called to cancel my red card and the guy asked why so I said it was due to their new DEI policies, or lack thereof, and he said, "WELL, wish there was something we could do to keep you but there's not so the account will be closed. Thanks for calling!" And then basically hung up on me. It definitely made me feel like the adult in the relationship.

[–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 59 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Another possibility, but perhaps unlikely. It could be they silently agreed with you and didn't take the normal, "please stay" tactics of offering you extras, etc.

Those calls may be monitored and that was the least they could do to keep their job.

Or, you know, it's just what it is: acceptance.

[–] Voyajer@lemmy.world 56 points 2 days ago (2 children)

They sound like they tacitly agree with you if that was their exact wording.

[–] frickineh@lemmy.world 44 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I would've thought that if his tone wasn't angry, but dude sounded pissed, and it was a very abrupt change when I said why. I'm sure I'm not the first or only person to cancel for that reason but I didn't get "secretly agrees" vibes.

[–] adrian 26 points 2 days ago

If they were in the retention department, it might have been because they knew there was nothing they could say to keep you. It reflects badly on them when they can't "save" a customer.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 17 points 2 days ago

Yeah it’s possible they had heard that before, and tried their usual extra bonus whatever to keep them, and then got an earful from those callers. So they are both unhappy about it (because they probably get dinged for not being able to keep customers) but they know they can’t convince you and so just want to get off the call as soon as possible.

[–] teamevil@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

I mean that's kinda what I'd have heard too....

[–] meyotch@slrpnk.net 8 points 2 days ago

Ok, then, that’s that. Tell all of your friends that there is now a rainbow target on Target.

Let’s see what we can do to that stock price.

As they say, the ax forgets but the tree remembers.

[–] match@pawb.social 43 points 2 days ago

remember may 2023 when they had pride merch by queer creators ash+chess and the merch was really fucking cool and then 2 weeks in they got death threats and pulled it all from stores

[–] KaRunChiy@fedia.io 30 points 2 days ago

I stopped going as soon as that bullshit with the conservative influencers freaking out over the swimsuit happened, with target immediately caving and removing them from stock

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 125 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

For the week that began April 7, foot traffic at Target stores dropped 4.7% YoY, according to Placer.ai.

Costco, which unlike Target, defied calls from the Trump administration for private companies to abandon their DEI efforts, notched its 16th straight week of foot traffic increases.

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 35 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] DrabPoultry@midwest.social 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 8 points 2 days ago

That was it! I couldn't remember it. I've seen it as "Go fash, lose cash."

[–] modifier@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I became a Costco member 3 weeks ago on this basis.

[–] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

My family joined in February.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

i work close to one, but i havnt had a urge to go-out of my way to a costco, i dont have a membership.

[–] davidgro@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

If you switch a reasonable amount of your shopping there and get the "executive" membership, it will literally pay for itself. (Because it gives a few percent back, and that is enough to cover the membership fee)

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

costco also a great place to buy stuff in bulk for much cheaper, while target had alot of shrinkflationing going on , they shrinkflationed, and cheapflationed thier own instore brand"up and up" to dealworty.

thier up and up was very good compared to brand name, but when they were going through shrinkflationing, thier products sucked.

[–] Fingolfinz@lemmy.world 57 points 2 days ago (1 children)

they really miscalculated their customer base

[–] Kingofthezyx@lemm.ee 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yeah I think people were shopping at Walmart if they were already willing to scrape the bottom of the barrel for low prices and convenience. Target was considered in a lot of groups where to go if you need big box stuff but have a moral quandary with Walmart. I know it was for me, at least. That entire subset of people was already willing to forsake convenience if it meant shopping along with their values. I couldn't like Costco any more than I already did (superfan) so I'm not necessarily going there more or spending more, but I am evangelizing them when I get the chance.

Basically I think the absolute number of people who shop with their values is relatively low, but a lot of them went to Target, and now they're not. I have certainly vastly decreased the amount I'm shopping there and instead looking for local/direct online sources of goods I would get from there or just forgoing stuff entirely.

[–] SARGE@startrek.website 53 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I had a target I would eat lunch at whenever a contract took me to the area, I could just walk over and get a personal pizza and drink.

Not anymore.

It's getting harder to shop at places that don't bend the knee.

Thats not a challenge to get more places to bend so we don't have a choice, I would happily never spend money in the United States again if I could help it.

[–] PolarKraken@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 days ago

Lotta moments like these adding up. Lotta times I myself just end up not buying a thing instead of getting it from better places, too. Between that, financial uncertainty with all the craziness lately, and folks just being broke, I have a feeling consumers are spending a lot less these days.

[–] thiseggowaffles@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 days ago

I value you for your commitment to DEI, Chief O'Brien. I'm sure Keiko approves as well.

[–] garretble@lemmy.world 44 points 2 days ago

I mean, I used to go to Target here and there when I was in the area of one. But I haven’t even thought about going since they started this shit so IMDOINGMYPART.gif.

[–] letsgo2themall@lemmy.world 38 points 2 days ago

Closed my target, walmart, amazon accounts. Got a Costco card. We're not coming back! They deserve bankruptcy,.

[–] TheRealCharlesEames@lemm.ee 37 points 2 days ago
[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 34 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

We're all willing to remove the boycott if the CEO livestreams himself having intercourse with a pig, because thats a good metaphor for what he's doing now. Then he and the target board of directors have to butcher and eat that pig. If he streams that, we'll come back. He can even keep his job.

[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 29 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Target doesn't know who to simp for to get more business.

Poorh widdol guyyyy

[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 2 days ago

Suggestion to target:

If you plant bones of the animals you kill in your backyard, you might be able to grow a spine.

Like a poor marksman.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 29 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 26 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago

Nice username

[–] jared@mander.xyz 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 days ago

They've been stealing artist's designs for decades. They suck.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 days ago

Good. Maybe they will lower their absurd prices.

[–] GooberEar@lemmy.wtf 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Just an opinion, but I feel like trouble was on the horizon for Target regardless of this DEI fiasco.

Of the major online general retailers, it seemed like Target held out the longest against 3rd party sellers. That was one of the biggest reasons I preferred to buy from Target. But they caved on that and somehow came out with one of the worst implementations. That decision really tarnished their brand for me.

Another factor that made me favor Target over the years is that their clothing offerings were pretty decent quality in styles I liked and affordable prices. But the last few times I've purchased clothes from Target, it's been outright junk and Target should be ashamed. Either way, it turned me off from buying clothes there, and by extension, soured me to the brand almost entirely.

By the end of 2024 I had basically given up on Target, and I can't help but think that all the issues I was having were systemic to the company. Feels like preemptively caving on diversity and equity policies was just another sign of the actual problem the company is facing (i.e. bad management and poor decision making).

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

they more or less gave up own thier instore brands too, and went for even cheaper made quality(just go on thier sites and see how many people complain about specific items), which doesnt last very long. target came in hot when they opened stores inner cities, when before they almost never do that due to size and location, but once the pandemic hit, they vastly scaled back on many things it was a sign when thier items are getting more expensive every year. target is trying to be sneaky by trying to get rid of thier lower priced better quality item for higher priced medium quality item.

certain products, like up and up mouthwash and TP were(the cheaper variants) were eliminated for dealworthy, while leaving the more expensive ones intact.

[–] Cyv_@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I quite like Costco. And Winco. I really gotta do some research and make sure they're not secretly shitty, but they've both been pretty great for me.

EDIT: Ok well I did some reading.

Costco is owned by shareholders mostly. It pays better than most other grocery stores, has a small amount of unionized stores, and also negotiates a non union employee agreement thingy for other employees. Not as protective as a union tho. They also have a few lawsuits and controversies regarding egg/meat production, specifically in treatment of hens at one point. They've paid some fines and committed to only producing cage free or whatever eggs. Some still claim the farms are cruel, but I didn't see any more results on lawsuits yet. They have a couple cases of "fucked up and had to recall food" as well as one case of an employee dying in SK from heat stroke. They were found at fault in that they didn't strictly enforce the breaks and water rules that were required for summer workers.

Overall, Costco seems better than most, but with some real flaws and things I hope they improve on.

Winco doesn't have a lot of info, it's privately/employee owned, and they don't have a controversies section on wikipedia lol. Their history mostly just talks about how they were established. Winco generally seems to pay its employees better than other big grocery stores (ballpark $16 vs $13 for walmart for example). I think the other big thing is they do an employee stock option thing so there's that too.

[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 days ago

I liked going to winco when I lived in their area. They had 24 hour stores and store brand La Croix that was better than the name brand

[–] raynethackery@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

How's the Walmart boycott going? I haven't seen anything in the news.