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[–] TON618@lemmy.world 163 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Leveraging people's property to trash their privacy and serve them ads is really a good way to get me to avoid an entire brand for everything.

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 27 points 1 week ago (9 children)

I agree, but with TVs (or large displays" we're at the point where there are no good options. Commercial displays are over engineered for the home and lag in technology Vs home TVs. So they're not an option. Lg and Samsung are the display technology leaders, but their TVs are full of crap— so no. Monitors don't go large enough for the living room.

Guess I'm stuck with what I have.

[–] knatschus@discuss.tchncs.de 29 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Monitors are still bigger than TVs our parents had in our childhood, no way I'm buying such a surveillance machine just for a bigger screen.

[–] schizo@forum.uncomfortable.business 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

For real: I'm using a 38" ultra wide, and if you had told child me that a 38" monitor would be the smallest display in the house I'd have told you that you're full of shit.

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[–] tauren@lemm.ee 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 77 points 1 week ago (7 children)

I recently bought an LG TV. I didn't connect it to the Internet, I just use it with my Chromecast or Switch. Works great, no ads, no AI BS.

[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 61 points 1 week ago (12 children)

Coming soon (if not already): TVs with utility cellular connections or corpo network (like Amazon sidewalk) access that your neighbor may have not opted out of.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 52 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

I find it highly likely that TVs will soon cease to function without an internet connection, complete with some BS explanation about protecting your privacy or security.

[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 31 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I can't set my dryer to medium heat unless I do so with an app over the internet even though the controls exist to do it on the unit. I bought a window AC unit and the only remote control is an app - thankfully I was able to put that on a subnet with no internet gateway and it still works.

[–] KnightontheSun@lemmy.world 40 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Name them. Bosch does this with some functions too. I bought the model below and didn’t care about delayed start or whatever. I am not loading your app!

I swear we need to start some appliance hacking clubs or something to sidestep this crap.

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[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 week ago

such things should be brought back to the store as defective

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[–] obsidianfoxxy7870@lemmy.blahaj.zone 73 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If they ever make this a standard feature in all TVs and make it where I can't just disconnect it from the internet, I will be using old TVs for the rest of my life.

My TV is there to display a visual output. It does not and should not do anything else.

[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Luckily digital signboards will always be an option to replace TVs with if the situation becomes truly dire. The sorts of no-frills displays corporations buy to display whatever media they want in store.

Might not come with sound, but you can pick up a cheap sound bar and it will still be better than whatever cheap speakers commercial TVs try to cram in there.

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[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 55 points 1 week ago (9 children)

Continue to never buy LG products again?

Gotcha. The advertising works, i guess...maybe not how they wanted to, though lol

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[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 47 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I'm about to live in a camper full of paper books. I hate everything tech has done in the last twenty years.

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[–] kipo@lemm.ee 41 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Can we please ban electronic advertising already? And billboards? Society would be better off without them.

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[–] brot@feddit.org 39 points 1 week ago

Let's be honest: I, as a customer, want to make informed buying decisions. I want to buy food that is tasty and maybe is healthy, but not based on some image that some marketing guys want to push. I want to choose the car which is best (and cheapest) for my purposes, and don't want to be hearded into buying something else. I want to choose the best insurance for me and not be mislead by some emotional ad showing me a happy family.

And I really do not want to be manipulated in an emotional vulnerable moment so that I buy something. That's shady as fuck

[–] Tungsten5@lemm.ee 39 points 1 week ago (12 children)

Holy shit there were so many ads in that article that I just stopped reading. It sucks LG is going down this route. They make really nice displays but now I dont ever want to buy an LG tv if its spying on me to serve me these ‘better’ ads. Fuck advertising. Its turned into a complete monster

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[–] filister@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Enshittification in progress. Sadly their OLED TVs are amazing, if not for the intrusive ads. It is really crap what all those companies are doing shoving ads our throats.

I am trying to block everything using ad blockers, DNS filtering, Pi hole, etc.

[–] expr@programming.dev 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I just... don't connect the TV to the internet. Never had an issue with anything like that.

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[–] swizzlestick@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Sometimes even that's not enough. I've had some questionable kit before that would just ignore the DNS settings fed to it if it thought they were no good, and fall back to something else preconfigured.

pfSense is a wonderful tool for situations like that. Anything intended for local use only here just doesn't get outside at all. Handy for stuff like a fire stick that only needs to be calling up a local media library.

It can also mangle any DNS requests going out to a different server and redirect them to itself instead. You could do this without it with iptables/nftables on a generic Linux box, but pfSense makes it much friendlier.

There are other packages that can do the same, but physically all you need is one piece of hardware as a bouncer that manages connections between inside/outside.

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[–] DJDarren@sopuli.xyz 13 points 1 week ago

I got an LG OLED a few weeks ago. Hands down the best TV screen I've ever owned.

Fuck knows what the stock OS does because I've only watched Apple TV through it.

[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 32 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This tech has been in TVs easily for the past ten years.

Did you know this stuff is in most modern cars, too? Fuck. EVERYTHING listens to you now.

I hate to use this phrase, but, back in my day, we used to call this SPYWARE and it was treated as a virus - it was highly unacceptable by people.

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[–] Rin@lemm.ee 30 points 1 week ago (2 children)
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[–] HeyJoe@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago (2 children)

So we pay them to do this to us? I stopped putting tv's on the internet once I realized it offered me nothing useful. Firmware is about it and if that's the case I'll either usb it or put it on the internet for 5 min to do the update. Even then Samsung sucks so much with firmware the release notes for every single update are "bug fixes and improvements"... thanks Samsung.

If I am forced to put it online or it comes up with a way to phone home on its own, I am done buying those kinds of tv's, and I'm sure some other brand will offer one that doesn't, even if it isn't the best one to buy.

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[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 29 points 1 week ago (4 children)

This is why you block the camera with a little diorama that shows a single white male viewer...frantically masturbating.

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Close. This is why I mastubate frantically infront of the cameras. It satifies they kink for surveilance and my kink in exhibitionism.

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[–] merdaverse@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Wait, TVs have cameras now? That sounds super creepy

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[–] Chessmasterrex@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I'd rather just not have a tv

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[–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 28 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Simple solution I use: Fuck television sets, get a computer monitor and basic speakers instead. A display should do only one thing and do it well.

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[–] eodur@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I was describing this to my partner and she thought i said "LGBT". Yes. The LGBTQ community created this technology and weaponized it. Next on Fox News.

[–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Well yeah. Did you forget what LGBT stands for? LG BlueTooth. That's how they get you

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[–] giacomo@lemm.ee 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

that was always my beef with ads, they just didnt speak to me on an emotional level

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[–] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 1 week ago

HOW EXCITING...

said no one ever.

[–] besselj@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 week ago

So glad I'm not in the market for a new TV

[–] thisphuckinguy@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I’ll never connect a TV to the internet again.

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[–] PunkRockSportsFan@fanaticus.social 19 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Never connect your tv to WiFi

Don’t buy connected anything

Just buy things that do the thing you want.

No consumer ever asked for a smart tv

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[–] raod_guitar@feddit.org 17 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I wonder if they have a "depressed loser" profile and what kind of ads I will get.

[–] FunnyUsername@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

if it's anything like the other ai features they offer, it will be garbage and never work and slow everything down

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[–] deathbird@mander.xyz 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You know back in the day they were like easily half a dozen custom Android ROMs for any given phone. I'm pretty sure that there's still a diversity of ROMs available.

Why is this not the case with televisions?

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[–] tabular@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Rather have a TV from 1999. Hope LG goes under.

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[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 1 week ago (6 children)

I wish there was a TV with absolutely no built in smart features and a slot in the back for a compute module (like a RP CM5).

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[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 13 points 1 week ago

If you want a serious mind fuck read "stand On Zanzibar" a science fiction novel from 1969.

One of the things that the writer predicted was Mr. & Mrs. Everywhere, a gimmick where your TV would insert your family into advertisements.

The novel is full of other, equally accurate predictions...

[–] Ton@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (3 children)

My LG OLED has never seen an internet connection and intend to keep it that way for a very long time: indefinitely.

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