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NGL if ya'lls ability to make rational appeals inherently relies on Luigi Mangione worship then you're going to have a very difficult time just in general.
Even just using the un-photo-shopped Bernie Sanders original could swing the bias almost 50% in your favor when approaching the general public with your ideals.
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Everybody loves Bernie. Only 18% approve of what Luigi did.
In your link below, 18% only includes "strong positive". Why exclude "somewhat positive"?
Edit (correcting numbers as pointed out): 31% positive, 41% negative for the under-45 respondents. 19% positive, 61% negative overall.
Because they're making their argument in bad faith, or they stopped after getting the part they wanted and didn't bother looking any further.
Who is 'they'? The 'somewhat positive' people are bad faith, or finitebanjo is bad faith?
This one. Sorry for the confusion.
finitebanjo has some pretty obvious 'lying with statistics' vibes. He said only 18% approved of Luigi's actions when I can say only 41% view Luigi's actions as negative. They were just cherry picking some stats.
Ah yes. The vibes. Always reliable. Except it's actually 61% negative. Should I accuse you of lying now?
You are adding 'not sure' as a negative. I didn't. That's why statistics are so much fun.
No I’m not.
The difference is I don’t attribute to malice what can be explained by ignorance.
Read the survey again. We are talking about the full population, not only young people.
You're right. I stopped at the first graph because I didn't do my due diligence. I just get tired of arguing statistics with people. I read through more of the graphs and that difference would make sense to me only if they asked more people over 45 than under 45. I would have to see more of the survey info. People can make graphs and random breakdowns by group to argue many different points.
It's actually 19%, including both levels of support. Reading is hard for people I guess.
And for the record, 61% held a negative view. So OP is completely correct here.
Ah, you are right regarding the full dataset. Thank you.
It's strange that they start off with, and seem to focus on, the under-45 respondents unless they were trying to push a positive-viewpoint message. For that age group, it was 31% positive and 41% negative. However, this group seems like a better fit for the Lemmy/Reddit audience. Furthermore, left-leaning voters appear to be more positive in this poll than their right-leaning counterparts.
With all that in mind, I still think this meme works well and wouldn't have been improved with Bernie.
I just want people to understand that just because many people on Lemmy love Luigi doesn't mean there's some secret silent majority in real life that does too. Most people don't want to see people shot down in the streets, regardless of who they are. It makes them feel like they or their family might be next.
I think they framed the story that way because to boomers the level of support among younger people is the most shocking thing about this poll. To those of us in that demographic it seems a strange way to do it because that's just how it is for us, so it's not that noteworthy.