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[–] Deestan@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago (2 children)

After all the self-important blowhards in the committe were satisified that they had put their fingerprint on the ISO8601 document with bullshit like "year-month-week" format support and signed off, they went home.

The rest stayed behind, waited a few minutes to be safe, and then quickly made RFC3339 like a proper standard.

This is what RFC3339 vs ISO8601 feels like.

[–] kata1yst@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Let's not forget that technically you have to pay for ISO8601, despite it being nearly useless as a standard because it allows several incompatible formats to coexist.

Fucking wild.

[–] Deestan@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

While a fucking stupid concept, it's nice that this particular format has a monetary deterrent.

[–] Vinstaal0@feddit.nl 1 points 2 days ago

Only if you want to say you have the certification for it, you can use it if you want, that is fine

[–] Vinstaal0@feddit.nl 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

ISO8601 is YYYY-MM-DD nothing to do with weeks and isn;t the only difference of RFC3339 that you can use a space instead of a T in between the date and time? Also RFC3339 is only an internet standard while ISO is a generally international standard?

[–] FrederikNJS@lemm.ee 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Vinstaal0@feddit.nl 1 points 2 days ago

Yeah I know, but it also has a different use case. As far as I know RFC3339 is mostly used for programming while ISO8601 is the standard for international communication and I wish people would use it more. I have processed American invoices in the wrong month because of their date structure. I have no reason to it, but I always write my date ISO 8601 (YYYY-MM-DD)

[–] Deestan@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No idea what you based those claims on, but the spec itself (I have the pdf) and Wikipedia's summary disagree. ISO8601 allows for YYY-MM-DD yes but it allows for a bunch of silly stuff.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8601

Both "2025-W24-4" and "2025‐163" are valid representations of today's date in ISO8601.

(Also the optional timezone makes it utterly useless.)

[–] Vinstaal0@feddit.nl 1 points 2 days ago

The omitting of timezones doesn't matter to a vast majority of the world, since most countries only have one time zone so I don't see a reason why that is relevant in most use cases.

ISO is a general standard, it's in the name and the RFC is created for the internet, that is also in the name/description of the RF.

Using 2025-164 can be handy, I actually use the day of the year to check what invoices from previous year are open since those are the invoices that are due 164 days or more.