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[–] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 94 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (39 children)

Fucking newspapers these days, this shit is important.

https://archive.ph/3X3Fe

OK, so the same shit about "trump is going to". last I heard newsom was in charge of CA NG. Trump isn't allowed to bring them up without a declaration of emergency or whatever.

Just bullshit that they will walk back in the morning.

e: LA times and AP seem to think this is actually happening. This is the boiling point; are you going to sit in the pot or jump out?

[–] mean_bean279@lemmy.world 34 points 3 weeks ago (36 children)

My only complaint (and I get to blame Regan) is that we can’t open carry here in Cali. That would help stop a lot of federal response if we had that capacity again.

I’m not for destroying government property since that’s property that belongs to the people, but I also respect that change doesn’t happen with complacency. Plus if it was a peaceful protest for Jan 6ers then why is this not considered one?

Every day I wish we didn’t have the current admin in charge since they lack capacity and bandwidth to take care of the real economic issues facing our generation and time.

Completely agree though that the national guard is in control of the governor. Although I wouldn’t be surprised if Newsom agrees to bring them in if the feds kick in FEMA funding like they’re supposed to.

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 55 points 3 weeks ago (16 children)

Open carry would have stopped NOTHING.

Flashing a gun at those GI Joe wannabes would have triggered their tiny brains to go into shoot to kill mode, and it would have been a massacre.

These dimwits are trained for full blown military responses. That's easy for them, they have the gear, the training, and the psychopaths to shoot on sight.

What they can't handle is massive civil disobedience, because they can't arrest 100k, 500k, 1 million people who are out there lawfully protesting.

But it's nutjobs like you, or that moron who sped their car at the agents, who will fuck it up for everyone.

Don't bring your gun. Keep it at home, and if shit gets to the point where they start killing people, then defend yourself.

[–] brygphilomena@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I disagree. They bring guns to scare us. To let the protestors know there are consequences.

For them to deal with an armed populace let's them know if they start shooting, they might catch a bullet. They have to face that real consequence and it scares them.

Until that point, they pretty much know they don't face ANY repercussions for ANY action they do.

I'm not saying to start armed protests. But this isn't "flashing A gun" it's 50 or 100 people who could lay hundreds or thousands of rounds at or in them if they do start using their weapons. And it will scare them into second guessing whether their life is worth detaining a few potentially illegal immigrants.

[–] ChillPenguin@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

And, we outnumber them. Maybe not now with the amount of guns civilians own. But if the government starts shooting to kill random people at a protest. People will arm themselves and they will train themselves. The populace is a lot larger than police forces and military.

I agree with your points.

As someone who lived in Minneapolis during the "riots", peaceful protest was instigated by police in order to arrest and get rid of the people in the streets. Then the police went to the news and said it turned into a riot. So many examples of police being instigators. Shooting sandbags at people in their homes, pepper spraying from their vehicles when people were walking down the street in cross walks peacefully, people beat further when on the ground bleeding. I imagine how the police would have acted if people were carrying. Would it have been a bloodbath? Or would they have been too nervous to do anything?

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