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I have a soft spot for the topic of people who are dual faith. It's weird, you know. If you're an atheist, you get a thumbs up from me. If you're religious with one faith, you get a raised eyebrow from me. And if you are dual faith, you get two thumbs up from me. It just feels like you're more open-minded if you are more than one faith.

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[–] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 2 points 13 hours ago

I have been described this way before, even though I see what I am as one whole. You could even call it "trial faith" if you count "agnosticism" as a component. I say that because I don't think of myself as metaphysically focused. Sure, God may exist, and I do have those leanings, but metaphysical matters are, by virtue of their nature, left out of the strict equations of life, by definition. I see my specifications with God as being summed up with "for all intents and purposes" (as much as people tend to mock it, Jordan Peterson's "what is" speech comes to mind here).

This may be my Pacific Islander side showing, but adherence to "folk LDS" has to do with the first part of my alignment. It has often been called Hagothism. In the Book of Mormon, one might recall (or so I am told) there are a few random verses where a sailor named Hagoth goes to different places in the Pacific to spread the light of the Nephites. This is where the tradition would come in. There are those of us who hold all the main teachings of "Mormons" (who don't really like being called that) but who teach something that's Australianized instead of Americanized. So different story narrative and whatnot. "Hagothists" still, however, identify as LDS. You can be a "Mormon" but not a "Hagothist" and vice versa, though even "Mormons" who have been to places relevant to "Hagothism" have seen the signs possibly indicative of being visited by the lord, such as stories in native beliefs about heavenly visitors. Though I am not absolute, I definitely lean towards these teachings known as Hagothism, it's not as judgmental and best matches expectations and answers questions.

Along comes the Mune Shinri, a scripture whose "faith name" is "Aiken". I only had to read it once, and everything fits perfectly. Components such as the views on gods (technically henotheism but technically monotheism, one doesn't rule out other gods while the other is like "hey, the angels of old were gods in a way"), the views on the afterlife (Hell is not for the good-hearted; one says you have to try really hard to get into Hell, the other speaks of a man named Akuma who was the first to do just that and resides in a place where people who haven't repented serious things stay given they don't speak their heart out), the views on geography (Aiken's connection to Japan comes to mind, and a lot of people wonder how Japan fits in with the lore about Hagoth, which may have an answer here), and the views on human rights (both are LGBT-friendly for example, err, one suggests it's not God's plan but implies it isn't damnable while the other says he does not look down on any form of unity) all come together like a rope and a curtain. As many of us do with many things, I, at different times, may vocally identify differently and with different semantics, even though it's all there at all times. As for what church I go to, it's a mix between a non-specifically denominational group and a regular LDS one.