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[–] sloppychops@lemmy.ca 60 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

I suppose he doesn't realise the huge energy input required, and which the US lacks, to produce aluminium.

They're not coming back, you doofus. It's not just a case of relocating manufacturing, you also would need to massively expand US baseload, and that is not happening. I mean, you cough in the direction of Texas and their entire grid collapses.

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 66 points 21 hours ago (4 children)

These are not protectionist tariffs. He's not trying to encourage US manufacturing.

He's trying to get other countries to bend the knee, and abandon their right to regulate their economy and their environment.

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 57 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

To paraphrase the old saying: Canada can remain independent longer than the US can remain solvent.

[–] baggins@lemmy.ca 18 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Someone posted that all his actions make sense if you think he's a Russian asset and the underlying purpose (even if he doesn't know it) is to damage US global influence and control. He's already doing an excellent job of this by alienating their closest allies.

[–] leftytighty@slrpnk.net 5 points 18 hours ago

I'm opposed to this oversimplification, even if he's a confirmed Russian asset we can't just imagine that erasing Trump and Putin will solve everything.

Fascism has reared its head and it wasn't just due to Putin and Trump. Real systemic change is required in the politics and the economy of the United States.

If they just go back to Bidening things up after Trump and assume everything is great there's going to be a very rude awakening.

We can't keep iteratively adopting Fascism, technological advances and the interdependence of the global economy has already made it so this time might destroy us all. Next time definitely will.

[–] Nemean_lion@lemmy.ca 4 points 20 hours ago

Oh it's 100% the case. And even knowing it I'm still playing into Russian hands and now am against America. He has enough support that the average American is just as bad.

[–] sloppychops@lemmy.ca 9 points 21 hours ago

Tarrifs are definitionally protectionist, but i take your point about intention.

The whole strategy is a recipe for disaster. A recipe that contains no eggs, obviously, and is served in the form of a paste.

[–] Pilferjinx@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

Honestly, we don't know what he actually thinks. I think every conspiracy has a bit of merit, which, through its unpredictable nature, is very destabilizing.

[–] kbal@fedia.io 9 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Huge demand for energy, you say? Sounds like just what Trump is looking for to help bring back the coal mining industry. Acid rain and mercury pollution for everyone will make America great again.

[–] sloppychops@lemmy.ca 7 points 20 hours ago