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[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Use JIS (Japanese Industrial Standard) screwdriver and bits. If you own a Japanese automobile, motorcycle, etc., you better use them.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I know what you mean. I have a few older Hondas and there is jis everywhere. I'm talking jis on the dash, jis on the cluster, jis on the sunvisor, seat track, sunroof... Jis on the gotdamnt headliner. The things are practically covered in jis.

[–] Unbecredible@lemm.ee 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It took all the way till the last sentence before I got the joke.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I was hoping it would be dry laugh creeper.

[–] Unbecredible@lemm.ee 1 points 6 days ago

Lol mission accomplished

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Visit the Vessel (Made in Japan) website. I know how you feel, I have a Nissan Leaf.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Phillips is identified, in muricuh, by just the cross pattern hole.

JIS is a cross patterned hole, with a separate round indentation in one of the cross corners.

They are very close to each other, but not exact, and can round eachother out.

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I have yet to strip any Phillips head screws with my Vessel bits.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

Congratulations.

Your ribbon is in the mail.

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

JIS is definitely a step up from Phillips, as long as you have the right bits and can tell them apart. I run into JIS a lot in bicycle maintenance. But neither of them hold a candle to metric hex. It's really hard to strip a hex bit until you're being a total idiot.

[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I've done it. It was a grub screw - so the hex was entirely within the shaft - that was surrounded by loctite, and frankly I never had a chance to get it out. It went circular immediately, just with hand pressure. I ended up having to use a screw extractor.

I was told this was a common problem on ARRMA vehicles and that I should get a more precise type of hex driver. They were expensive but I haven't had the problem since.

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

OK yeah that sucks. I've run into hex grubs screws before, but on brake levers which I'm pretty sure have to meet things like ISO safety standards so the hardware was higher quality.

[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 week ago

Also though these are RC size, 5mm screws, so much easier to kill. Apparently the issue is most hex drivers are slightly undersized, and ARRMA like to loctite their axle grub screws to hell.