Asking after the privacy debacle and manifest. I'm not keeping up closely, but iirc Firefox is the browser recommended because of Ublock. After the privacy data issue I've noticed broken trust from Firefox users, recommendations in favor of switching browsers, and predictions saying Firefox is going downhill fast and that their forks won't be maintained for much longer.

So I'm here asking the seasoned sailors' thoughts, aye. Is this just a storm passing by or are you really considering jumping ship?

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[–] erotador@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

well Firefox may enshittify, it's still the best option imo, certainly better than chrome or anything chrome based. even better if you use a privacy focused fork like librewolf.

there are other options out there, you can look into qt browsers, those were the basis for webkit browsers. hopefully soon things like servo/verso become more useable.

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The UX of Librewolf sucks ass though. Want to change this setting? Well you can't, too bad.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 1 points 1 month ago

It doesn't suck, it's just not intended for casual users, which is why I chuckle when I see it recommended. That and Mullvad browser. I'd pretty much just recommend TOR over those, if you're really going for strict privacy.

For something that strikes a good balance, I use Zen.

[–] ZeroHora@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

How the UX of librewolf is different from the UX of Firefox?

[–] otto@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

A lot of options are disabled for “privacy reasons”. There is no halfway approach. It’s all or nothing with their strict privacy settings.

For some, that’s perfect. For others, who want a more tailored privacy experience, it’s not a really great option.

[–] clove@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Sucks they're not close to as secure as chromium based browsers. Where's my privacy and security first browser ☹️ Vandium is the only thing close to that. Can't wait for desktop version.

[–] EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

As @erotador@lemmy.blahaj.zone said, default Firefox is still more private than Chrome. Also, if you want security (and more privacy) on top of that, you should look into LibreWolf. I've been using it for a few years now and it's fantastic!

[–] bizarroland@fedia.io 1 points 1 month ago

I don't know if it is due to some sort of baggage from using the Mozilla Sync service or what, but librewolf without Mozilla Sync is faster for use than Mozilla Firefox is for some reason.

I only swapped over a few days ago, but the speed up was big enough for it to be apparent to me.

[–] clove@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Just not what I've read from security engineers or other sources like GrapheneOS devs. A lot of the flaws on mobile also apply to desktop. Just turns out engineering man power is a huge deal for secure browsers.

[–] skarn@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 month ago

What you read is true, and also total nonsense.

There is not too much point in discussing privacy and security without a threat model.

So once you put your threat model into focus, you can discuss how to mitigate those threats and pick the right browser for you.

[–] erotador@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 month ago

Firefox is more private than chrome, chrome had more security updates, but Firefox is not far behind by any means.