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And all 14 going for a 1 year paid maternity leave at same time. Fun time for those at work π
Let me guess.... you're from Europe...
Yeah, I work for a hospital system in the states. We do have paid maternity leave, but it's to the tune of 2 weeks, not a whole year
Wanna something to cry about?
Here(Central Europe)
From the moment you are confirmed pregnant you are not allowed to work in any capacity that could endanger you pregnancy - no heavy lifting,no night shift, no overtime, no patient contact that could lead to infections or endangerment (e.g. needle injuries, anesthesia gas, blood, violent patients, etc.). If the hospital can't find a suitable position (e.g. in the outpatient clinics,etc.) you stay at home with full pay - and you are basically unfireable, especially due to anything pregnancy related. Six weeks before the estimated due date you are forbidden to work unless you expressly volunteer to do so (and even then the conditions above must be met). (This is,btw, partially an international agreement by an UN organisation that the US refuses to ratify)
8 weeks after the birth the mother is not allowed to work (unless in very special circumstances), longer for twins,etc. The mother receives full pay and benefits, e.g. vacation days,etc. still accrue.
For 12 months mothers or fathers can stay at home with up to 1800β¬/month (depending on their pre-birth income), the same money will be payed for 14 months if the other partner stays at home for 2 additional months.(E.g. the mother can stay at home for 12 and the father for 2, or both for 7 months,etc.). The employer must retain the job for the mother/father under normal circumstances. Until 3 years one parent (at a time) can stay at home unpayed and the job needs to be partially maintained.
Parents also have a right to work part time in most scenarios.
I know, in the grand scheme of things for you at the moment this is hardly the most pressing issue, but you guys really get cheated over there. I feel bad for you.
Also, you can legally get an abortion. And if you miss the date, you can as a last resort put your baby in a baby box, which is anonymous and not recorded on camera to preserve anonymity, and it will be taken care of so it doesn't die and will most likely be adopted.
Or you can give birth anonymously and give the baby up for adoption then. If you do this or use the baby box there is also a grace period.
Now do Canada!
Instructions unclear, Canada now pregnant.
Most women aren't even fully healed by two weeks, either.
No one heals in full on capitalism
No that parasite usually stays around for 18 plus years, sometimes longer.
I was thinking what a nightmare it would be to replace them temporarily.
Yeah exactly
You got at least 6 mo to plan and loccoms are a thing. What managers get paid for right?
Yes. And good managers can do it.
Thereβs the rub, tho.
If it's constant that staff rotates out for medical, then you really need to bump (increase) staff. That's capacity planning 101
Vermont has 1 year paid maternity leave?
It doesn't? No idea, but I'd expect developed country like USA to have paid maternity leave
Unfortunately you are horribly mistaken.
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Oh my fucking god, truly a shit hole country like the us pres said
That may be federal, but some states (and i do mean some) have something called FMLA provided by the state. The one I am in guaranteed you 8 weeks and I believe it was just raised to 12 weeks. Granted it's not great because it's a lot of paperwork, you don't get paid right away, you won't make what you did if you were working, and not all the weeks are payable! But you are allowed this if you want it and your job can't fire you. If your job is good enough, which normally they are, you can combine the state time off with your jobs time off to add on an extra month or 2. My wife's a teacher so she did this and used all the sick time and vacation time she had saved over the years to take an extra few months on top of FMLA so she was able to have our kid in December and take the rest of the school year off from January to June then get summer break and return in sept. So still not a year, but 9 months wasn't bad either. I on the other hand got 2 weeks and our 2nd kid I took 3 weeks of vacation. Sadly everyone's experience is different and you won't know what you will have because it's up to the state and job which is stressful on its own. Most places from what I have seen with friends are not trying to screw you, but I would say the average I've seen people take is 1 month.
Edit: so I just looked and since it's been a few years since I have last needed it i haven't followed it. Looks like FMLA has spread to more states and looks like about 12 (mostly blue states of course) now have this at the state level. https://onpay.com/insights/paid-family-leave-by-state/
Just an FYI, the FMLA itself does not pay you. It only protects your job so you cannot lose it or be replaced while out on leave.
Also, FMLA is federal (for now anyway). The article is about paid family medical leave in some states, which they abbreviate PFML.
Some states have something FOR NOW*
FMLA is a federal program, not a state one. It means you canβt be fired over it certain kinds of leave and is often unpaid. That 9mo your wife got is unusual.
There is no guaranteed paid parental leave in the US.
Sorry, yes you are correct. The paid leave comes from the state that added onto this. It was 4 weeks' pay from the state. She was allowed 6 in total. After that was up, it was up to the school district to allow her the rest of the time off. The time off allowed came from her accrued sick time and vacation over the years. She still needed the request approved by the board since it was a lot of time. 2 and a half of those months were also summer, which she is off for anyway.
Word. Glad she got that truly!
Most companies offer paid maternity leave. Lower hourly would mostly be the exception to that.
Sadly there isn't a minimum set by law.
Even fathers get 8 weeks nowadays in my country.
Damn that's neat! I had the opportunity to share some with my wife + 2 weeks
It's per state when it comes to maternity leave. This map would be like saying "The EU doesn't have laws on maternity leave so no one gets any" when every country there has its own.
California at least has PFL (paid family leave) runs concurrent with FMLA for, iirc, 12 weeks. Also, it applies to fathers, too.
I forgot about FMLA. We have 12 weeks of maternity leave, you just have to work there for a few months beforehand. You can't just join up 9 months pregnant and immediately go on maternity leave. Imo, it's kinda fair.
Yeah but fmla is not paid. It just protects your job for when you get back.
It's not mandated by law but a hospital almost definitely has it.
I also would have expected a hospital to offer some of the best health insurance in the country - I was agast when my wife got a job and we realized it was trash tier compared to her major corporation retail job she had previous to that. So yes, maybe - but I don't think it's a given or a safe assumption by any means.
US is the richest 3rd world country.
"3rd world country" just means that the country wasn't aligned with either USA or USSR during cold war. Don't use it when you mean poor or developing countries.
Doing that can range from just incorrect to even insulting to some people
I think he just wants to be insulting.
Kinda, but I don't hate Us anymore as I did in my commie years. Hate Russia and China much more.
Still I think your country is deeply undeveloped when thinking at paid vacations, free healthcare, free schools and so on.
No welfare = 3rd world country
Oh you sweet summer childβ¦ got some news for youβ¦.
Lmao
90 days, if they're lucky. Probably more like 2 weeks.
90 days at half pay too....