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They want us to riot so bad. They are foaming at the mouth trying to justify enacting Martial Law and every day it feels like its more and more inevitable that we will end up there. Either they are going to keep violating the constitution and getting away with it until they don't need to enact it, or eventually shit hits the fan at a protest. I don't see any other option at this point. They are taunting us, and it's going to work eventually.
NAIL ON THE HEAD.
the ironic thing is that the us govt has done a ton of studies on the 'breaking point of society'. but they're not science bros, so they're just gonna do it their way.
even the canada thing. he's literally costing himself a canadian conservative govt that was all-but guaranteed. but he doesn't want that with canada; he just wants (edit-typo) manufactured conflict.
but you're absolutely right. he's doing everything he can to cause riots so that he can enact "marshall" law and crack down once and for all. my god, why can't my american neigbours all see it?
"I dub thee Sir Phobos, beater of ass."
that’s martian law, barbeaubot
More jut! It don't mean butt if it don't got that jut.
are we playing "guess the reference"?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BP0-znoJ6fs
i just think they’re petulant children with absolutely no self control
trump literally as old as he is right now would take the marshmallow in the stanford marshmallow experiment, and then try and convince someone that you stole his other marshmallow
I appreciate that this "riots are part of their plan" post acknowledges that not rioting just means a bloodless coup. People keep putting this argument up like the optimal move is just continually not taking the bait under the assumption that some easy solution will eventually come to fruition, but it's just the frog arguing for boiling itself. They're not going to just have four years of people letting them do whatever they want and then run free and fair elections because we didn't take the bait.
Would be nice if there was some leadership on the dems side to, you know, address the volatility of the nation right now. Schumer seriously sending angry letters. If riots break out I hold them equally responsible. They will literally sit on their hands until the country goes up in flames and come out afterwards saying we need unity.
You are 100% correct, that is definitely the plan. Have the RedHats instigate violence, then call in the military to quell the violence with even more ferocious violence, and Hegseth will definitely give the order to fire on American citizens. It will be like Tiananmen Square, but in cities all over America. Once he has declared Martial Law, he can suspend elections until peace is restored, and since he will control the peace.
The 2026 midterms are shaping up to be a bloodbath, and he can't afford to lost one or both chambers to the Democrats, where they can have control of investigative committees, with subpoena and arrest powers.
So he has to time it right, so the courts and SCOTUS wont have time to react before election day. That means next summer/fall. By then, Luigi's trial will be in play, many more activities will be criminalized, he will have sent Americans to El Salvador, the first stage of the 30,000 bed facility in Gitmo may be open (or soon), he will have imprisoned political opponents, store shelves will be empty, other goods will be tripled in price, we'll be in a deep recession, there will be food shortages, etc. Anything is possible, but it will all add up to public outrage like we have never seen, and he will take full advantage of it to end our system of government, and become a one more incompetent Dictator.
Then it's on.
I'm pretty sure Trump will start a war before the elections, both to boost his ratings and to justify extraordinary powers because of the emergency that he will have just created.
He tried very hard to do so with Iran last time around, when he committed a war crime faking a diplomatic meeting in order to assassinate one of their to generals.
Yes I think that it will be with Iran this time too. I mean, nobody can know with Trump since he's an avatar of Chaos, but it is a good option. Big and powerful enough that you don't accidentally win in 48 hours. Not an ally of any western country. Already have propaganda queued up since 1979 or so.
I don't think they want it. Numbers aren't in their favor. We aren't remotely close to Russian or Chinese levels of generational suppression.
But they likely don't know they don't want it. They assume they will get absolute power one way or the other because China, Russia, Saudi Arabia, North Korea, etc have absolute power in their state.
I doubt the Tiananmen Square massacre would have been nearly as effective with the speed at which information flows nowadays. Sure - major corporate media can suppress as much as it can, but millions of people were able to turn out for protests quickly, and think of how fast we all found out about the arrest of two judges.
Against any totalitarian government, the most effective weapon is information, followed closely by communication. I am willing to bet that there isn't code sitting on our phones waiting for the government to just shut it all down.
The government can absolutely shut down the internet and telecommunications. They can also send propaganda straight to your phone that you can’t stop.
One time I was at the internet place picking up a new router. The internet in the area had just gone down and angry people were literally coalescing upon the store like zombies.
Godspeed to anyone who turns the data off to America
Wait, two judges?
I've been expecting the US to explode into a near civil war type situation for months now. You have a relatively small group of very heavily armed people who are willing to die for their dictator, you have a now dictatorial regime wanting to change the US into a theocracy and you have the other 200+ million Americans with varying degrees of weapons who are just about ready to make shit hit the fan. I wonder if US military has prepared for this, and whose side it will chose, but I imagine it will be fracture d and splintered between factions.
It would be super interesting to watch if it wasnt so goddamn scary because these fuckers have the world's second largest nuclear arsenal and have of these idiots in command are the doomsday types who will happily fire nukes world wide when shit gets real, just to make sure that jeebus would come back to earth to pick them up personally.
Fuck I hate this and I hate these hateful people. I hate it that these people have pushed so much hate in me
I am hoping the intelligence agencies of other powers would disrupt "our" nuclear capabilities. It is in the interest of China, Europe, Canada, Mexico, and humanity in general if Trump can't flash-fry the world.
It's a great strategy, either we riot and they bring out the army, or we do nothing and they get what they want unopposed.
"The second American revolution will be bloodless if the left allows it"
We're so fucked.
The threat of Martial Law is a conspiracy theory at best. There aren't nearly enough troops AND police to institute it. Stop trying to pretend it's even possible
To the downvoters: get over yourselves. It's simple mathematics. This video explains it all.
Since when has plausibility stopped the Trump Regime from doing stupid things?
Yes, there are. 80% of the population can be controlled on mere threats alone. The rest can be dealt with by the authorities.
Besides, it isnt about whether its possible or not, its all about them believing that they can. If HitlerPig wants to do it, his henchmen know that they have to enthusiastically agree and call him the greatest strategist in the world, or they are out of a job (at best). So they'll tell him its possible.
You think they can handle 75 million people?
They would first go after blue states on sanctuary cities.
Think about that time those 4 cops beat up that black guy in LA. I’m talking about Sir Rodney King.
The US is the biggest military in the world
Which country could do it better if not the US?
The US is notoriously bad at dealing with insurgencies. Toppling a government/military is what the military is designed for, and has shown to be able to do in a matter of weeks, but stamping out an armed populace afterwards has always been where they falter. The US would be the most heavily armed insurgency to ever exist. More guns than people here
But like, it doesn't really matter, all that matters is that they will try and try to enforce it
What happened in the countries where they tried to stamp out insurgency? They ended up in rubble for the most part. That's the scary part
I say do it. Let chaos reign supreme. Burn it all down.
you sound like a person who lives a very comfortable life.
Big "i'll watch and laugh from my house" energy. Probably doesn't even live here.
I live in the midwest and would take to the streets for sure. Sorry, but I DO own a home. I guess you got me there?
You're a teenage kid in your parent's house, pretending to be tough. It's obvious.
I was 21 years old on Christmas Eve in 2008 when I got a call that my best friend died in Iraq. This instigated a decade and a half long bout of alcoholism that I still fight. I'd die to be a teenage kid in my parent's house. I've been in the streets. What have you done?
edit - i've been informed that i've replied to the wrong comment.
cringe. you should probably at least look into someone's recent comments before you make your comments. i'm canadian, and there's no doot aboot it. but what the heck does that have to do with the point i made? for what it's worth, i grew up in tennessee, so maybe i'm just another dirty immigrant?
I think the other user was referring to the comment you answered to
see? this is why i don't have any friends!
He was agreeing with you, not attacking you
i'm lots of fun at parties. i've edited my post to preface that my comment is asinine, because i feel like everyone needs to see what stupid comments look like.
No offense taken I didn't read this until after the edit
What? I was talking about Trump. He should arrest an SC justice. That way people might actually fucking do something.
i thought i already edited this comment. sorry. a lot of people already pointed out that i read the whole thing wrong.