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AFAIK, it goes something like this:
EDIT: There's more to it. Seems like said mod is also active on Reddit (https://lemm.ee/post/60365167)
For clarity's sake, the views the mod expressed were:
Is all criticism now a "mob" just because they don't want people with anti-immigrant and anti-LGBTQ+ views to have the power to censor others?
From what I saw, the admins actually said that they were fine with keeping him on the moderation team and the mod deleted their own accounts
Are they? The most I saw was that people were considering leaving because other instances were going to start blocking Fosstodon
What is with the concealing and downplaying of the mod's views and then exaggerating the "outrage" of the "mob"? Yes the Fediverse can be drama-prone but most of the fanning of the flames seems to be coming from the people complaining about Fedi users genuine criticisms of the mods/admins on Fosstodon
I don't think it's unreasonable to remove mod privileges for these kinds of views if you're trying to run an inclusive space. There's supported suspicion that they've used their mod powers to censor information on minorities already, just because they haven't done it yet on this platform doesn't mean you let them lie in wait to do it. Makes me worry that Fosstodon admins don't see any issues keeping someone like that around
Would this get the same kind of backlash had the mod been kicked out for tankie views?
Just to respond to point (6): From the blog post, there is a link to a post from someone moving from fosstodon to hachyderm that says:
So, yes, at least one person is moving to another instance not because they are particularly against the admins, but for fear of being judged by association.
My understanding was that this mod's accounts disappeared from everywhere (including Reddit), not just Fosstodon. So, I think they deleted their accounts themselves to avoid the backlash or something.
I don’t know if your changed your view on the issue after getting more context on carrotcypher’s histoy on Reddit but I’d like to share some of my quick thoughts
I don’t think it’s probably fair to characterize him as a nazi but I do think it’s fair to find some of his views objectionable
He let his personal politics influence his moderation decisions outside of posted community rules. It’s bad moderation when Lemmy.ml doesn’t it and it’s bad when he does it,
Removing him as moderator is appropriate based on number 2 moreso than number 1
Defederation from FOSStodon is a nuclear reaction that I don’t personally agree with but it’s a freedom that the fediverse is built on. Zealously demanding all (non-malicious) instances remain federated is a bad thing as much as zealously defederating from instances that don’t have the right politics.
I often find myself outside the “acceptable viewpoints” on the fediverse and it hasn’t really affected me other than getting a few downvotes once in a while. The fediverse isn’t actually as ideologically pure as we think it is, I think the constant tankie/liberal drama is proof of that.
I agree with almost all of your points, but I don't think that it's okay to normalize guilt by association, and I call them "the mob" because I see these calls for defederation less as a real concern for their safety and more of instrument to enforce compliance.
So, the usual "on the Fediverse you shalln't be anything less than immaculately perfect" crap?
don’t openly be a biggot doesn’t seem that hard
The 11th commandment.