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  • Volkswagen beat Tesla in European EV sales across the first three months of 2025, data shows.
  • Registrations for VW EVs are up more than 150%, while Tesla lost huge ground.
  • However, the Model Y and Model 3 remain Europe's top two most-registered EVs.
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[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 31 points 3 days ago (7 children)

Freaking hell Lemmy has a huge hard on for BYD.

[–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 12 points 3 days ago

I've seen some videos on them. They look pretty nice but I worry about how they hold up and the build quality, as I would any relatively unestablished brand.

[–] frankgrimeszz@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

I only brought them up because I saw a news report that their dealerships are popping up and their starting price is much lower than Tesla. Like €17000.

[–] trk@aussie.zone 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Can't speak for other countries, but in Australia BYD is smashing it.

They represent incredible value for money and it's not like we've got a local industry to protect - our conservative government made sure of that.

We're already the world's dumping ground for shit vehicles that don't meet emissions standards, so having a non-Elon Musk EV alternative is something people are grabbing with both hands. We bought a BYD Seal Performance for $70k AUD a little over a year ago. For that money you get an incredibly comfortable sedan that does 500k on a charge, costs about $1 per 100km to run, and does 0-100 in 3.8 seconds.

EU vehicles are crazy overpriced by comparison, and because they try and position Mercedes / BMW / VW as luxury brands here the servicing and repair costs are through the roof. Part availability also sucks, with everything being a 6+ week lead time. We've owned European vehicles on several occasions and never again.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] trk@aussie.zone 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Like what?

Korea has a few (Hyundai, Kia / same,same) but the only Japanese options are [P]HEV or the Toyota BZ4X which is... ugly... if it didn't have a Toyota badge I don't think they'd sell any of them. Few old Leafs still hanging in there, but if you want to go more than 100k at a time that's them ruled out.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago

300km+ range for the Leaf these days and they've got the Ariya that has over 400km of range, but I just checked and they don't seem to offer either in Australia...

Guess you're truly stuck with Chinese and Korean models then...

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Not my part of lemmy, must just be Tankies or some shit.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Don't want to protect elon musk's swastikar LLC with tariffs? Must be a tankie! Want to buy a cheap electric vehicle? tankie!

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago

"Anyone who supports Tesla is now a Tankie. Anyone who is anti-Tarrifs is now a Tankie. Anyone who wants anything anti-Trump is a Tankie."

For the moment he had shut his ears to the remoter noises and was listening to the stuff that streamed out of the telescreen. It appeared that there had even been demonstrations to thank Big Brother for raising the chocolate ration to twenty grammes a week. And only yesterday, he reflected, it had been announced that the ration was to be REDUCED to twenty grammes a week. Was it possible that they could swallow that, after only twenty-four hours? Yes, they swallowed it.

[–] Wanderer@lemm.ee 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Fuck the Tankies fuck communism entirely, I just got back from Cambodia, got an economics degree and like capitalism, China's a bunch of dickheads.

BYD is going to change the world.

It's the classic incumbents move slow into new tech. Added with government investment, low labour costs, access to raw materials/adjacent industries, hungry growth focused companies, semi crazy workforce.

I haven't drove a BYD or even a electric car for that matter but reading the stats things are going to move fast and the rate they move is going to increase. I can see all the west companies largely losing their overseas market, other than luxury, inside cities. The world's moved on and people don't realise.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Nice try but true capitalists with economics degrees hate capitalism. There simply is no other system ever attempted.

China's capitalist move is to operate these electric car companies at or near a loss to push competitors out of the markets which would be unsustainable if they had to worry about human rights in the process.

[–] Wanderer@lemm.ee 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Plenty of things have been tried.

Like communism has been tried multiple times. Every time was an unmitigated fucking disaster.

[–] weew@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago

Because they present amazing value (at Chinese prices) and really advanced battery technology.

[–] dickalan@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It’s not just Lemmy. Also Reddit

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

I don't go there anymore so I don't know 🤷

[–] Blablablabum@lemmy.zip 0 points 3 days ago

Well, they do make pretty nice cars.. I have a dolphin, and it is great value for the money :)