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Thunderbird will not adopt the new terms from mozilla (mastodon.online)
submitted 6 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) by Zenlix@lemm.ee to c/technology@lemmy.world
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We won't be adopting the Firefox Terms of Use for Thunderbird.

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[–] Engywuck@lemm.ee 25 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Well, IIRC, TB isn't developed by Mozilla. They just "host" it.

[–] heavydust@sh.itjust.works 16 points 6 days ago (6 children)

Which is one more stupid thing from Mozilla. Imagine if, 10 years ago, they had made a combo of: Firefox, Thunderbird, email hosting, maybe some kind of online office thing and a drive, Sync... That could have been the ultimate productivity package for "Office" stuff inside one convenient subscription.

Instead we now have Office 365, Google Docs, and nothing more.

[–] Engywuck@lemm.ee 13 points 6 days ago

Add some better CEO/management to the mix, but yes.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 days ago

I want separate apps that are really good at what they do, not a bunch of apps that kinda work together and are just okay. So I would much rather they focus on one thing and services around it. Such as:

  • online payments - make a way for me to compensate sites in lieu of ads
  • secure storage - bookmarks, files, notes, all from the browser; or self host
  • VPN integrated into the browser - exists

Everything should be opt-in and privacy centered, and all of that can be browser extensions.

[–] datavoid@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Don't give them subscription ideas, even mentioning subscriptions is dangerous!

[–] heavydust@sh.itjust.works 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Firefox is the kind of software where I would gladly pay $10 a month to support its development.

Dismantle Mozilla, give the money to Firefox, profit.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 6 points 5 days ago

Exactly. I'd donate today if my money actually went to Firefox.

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 3 points 5 days ago

Nextcloud 😃 we have many nextcloud hosters

It is all that

[–] 4am@lemm.ee 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

LibreOffice: “I’m right here”

[–] BuckenBerry@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

libreOffice is so ugly that every time I use it I get a strong urge to start using Microsoft edge

[–] anytimesoon@feddit.uk 1 points 4 days ago

It really is a shame that it looks so terrible. It's a really solid office suite otherwise, but I agree that it's not a pleasure to use simply because of how ugly it is

[–] cmhe@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

So a bit like extending Mozilla Application Suite aka Seamonkey instead of focusing on standalone products?

[–] hamsterkill@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 5 days ago

They do. Well, I should say Thunderbird is also under the Foundation, but is developed by a separate subsidiary Corp (MZLA Tech Corp) than Firefox (Mozilla Corp).