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Discovery gets more hate then it deserves, but The Orville is certainly more of a Star Trek show. I'm glad I stuck out the rough start (which is on brand for a Star Trek show lol)
I think the problem is the writers clearly had a show that they wanted and for some bizarre reason they decided that it was also going to be a Star Trek show even though they clearly didn't actually want it to be Star Trek.
If they just made it its own thing it would have been fine, but all this Star Trek lore kept popping up and then they had to come up with some hand wavy explanation for why their particular vision doesn't fit established canon, and the whole thing just didn't work as a result.
I would have been totally down for a "magic exists alongside the sci-fi technology" show. There's a lot they could have done with that concept, but then for some reason they kept trying to introduce Klingons into it.
Agreed. It's a decent action scifi show that is hurt by trying to fit the IP. It did do some interesting things with the mirror universe, and some of the latter season parts where it takes nonsensical one off TOS concepts and completely seriously says "that's canon, let's build a plot point on it" were entertaining, if not good.
But it just doesn't get Star Trek and it says something that I tell people getting in to the shows not to watch it.
I said they fled to the future, by kurtzman to avoid the negative press the first 2 seasons were giving by fans, to avoid that Klingons look and also their sudden acquisition of cloaking technology, which they were not suppose to have for another 100years, when the Romulans traded them the tech in exchange for warship technology(D7), balance of terror. I think it was the cloaking tech is what irked old fans, they weren't even suppose to develop it.