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[–] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 43 points 2 days ago (9 children)

Anything in my house smarter than the IKEA remote control light switch gets crushed with a hammer.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 50 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I mean, you could just use smarter stuff that's open source and has local API, or do what I do and build your own devices where you can ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 37 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

Even there though, what is the actual point of a phone app controlled smart toilet, even if you open sourced the whole thing? Unlocking one's phone and tapping the app icon, and then presumably a button on the app, is going to take more time than one press of a lever that one is right next to anyway, and the latter doesn't present as many points of failure.

[–] Walican132@lemmy.today 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Well if you read the product description it was to allow AI Bidet control. However they had not received funding for AI so it was outsourced to a team of laborers in India using cameras and joysticks.

It also logged the consistency, frequency and matter samples from all BMs so you could make informed dedication opinions.

Spoiler/s

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

informed dedication opinions.

Hmmmmm

[–] Walican132@lemmy.today 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Damn was supposed to be defecation autocorrect got me.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Oooohhhhh, that makes sense.

[–] coconutking@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

I heard they sold a license for the camera feed and controls access to EA for their next pay-to-play iOS game. The shareholders are really excited for this synergy.

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

I asked for AI Biden control smh

[–] toynbee@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I have no interest in one, but playing devil's advocate, some might consider it more sanitary since you don't have to touch the toilet to flush and have the choice of not being near it, hopefully avoiding any spray.

Also, if your guests use the restroom, you can startle them at any time.

[–] mj_marathon@programming.dev 16 points 2 days ago (2 children)

How do the guests flush the toilet without the app? They have to ask you?

[–] toynbee@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

That occurred to me while writing my comment, as well, and I don't like the implications.

I would imagine they have to ask you, yes. If the toilet can be flushed without authentication, they'd probably still have to ask you how.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Of course. My roof, my water, my rules! /s

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

more sanitary

Foot pedal flush really needs to become a thing.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Wait, why isn't it? There's been so many weird flush designs over the years.

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Probably just the extra cost of linkage and maybe risk of tripping over it

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[–] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I assume lack of demand. In your own home, you'd be keeping the handle clean, and public washrooms often use the touchless sensor types.

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[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Designing foot-operated things tends to fly in the face of modern accessibility standards. Wheelchair users already have enough problems using public toilets.

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

They can still have both. A foot pedal for those who want it, a standard handle for those who don't or can't. In fact, retrofitting existing handle-flush toilets to add foot pedals could make a lot of sense.

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[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yeah, wouldn't want to get bacteria on your hands a few seconds before washing your hands.

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[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Ok maybe the flushing part is a bit overkill and mostly a joke, but a toilet that can deliver notifications like if it's clogged for example before you use it and make it worse would have fantastic utility IMO

[–] mj_marathon@programming.dev 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

This makes zero sense. If it's clogged, you'd know beforehand when you look in the bowl. Why the would anyone need a notification for that?

The ONLY utility that I could see here is if the notification logged who did the clogging so you could give them shit.

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Toilets can appear to have flushed fully, but still have...material...stuck in the U-bend that hasn't completely evacuated the toilet. A subsequent flush won't work, even though the water in the bowl is clean.

Ask me how I know.

That said, this could almost certainly be better-solved in other ways. Maybe by preventing the tank from refilling if there's still something in the u-bend (then you'd know it needed attention because there'd be no water in it)?

[–] ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] mj_marathon@programming.dev 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
  1. We don't know that the toilet has this sensing capability.
  2. If it does, the actual fix is the same as if it were a regular toilet.

This just isn't an issue that needs technology as a solution.

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

125% agreed. I was responding only to "If it's clogged, you'd know beforehand when you look in the bowl." I think there's potentially an engineering solution--a fluid dynamics engineering solution--but definitely not an app.

[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A little display or indicator light somewhere on the toilet itself would be better than connecting it to some IOT app

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[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] dontpanic@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago

But in this scenario don’t the toddlers need phones? Wait do toddlers all have phones now?

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I guess, but I've never heard of a toilet clogging before it's used.

There's other better examples, though. Smart thermostats get plenty of use from the people I know with them. A fridge that tracks how long stuff has been inside would be dope. Smart lights have uses.

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Toilets can appear to have flushed fully, but still have...material...stuck in the U-bend that hasn't completely evacuated the toilet. A subsequent flush won't work, even though the water in the bowl is clean.

Ask me how I know.

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[–] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Stuff like openWRT routers get a pass.

If it has a local host API I would use it because it never has to connect to the internet.

[–] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 days ago

People also just need to be more selective about where and how they automate.

For example, I wanted my coffee to automatically start in the morning. So instead of buying a "smart" coffee maker, I bought the dumbest possible one and a smart switch. Now, no matter what happens with that switch, the worst that can happen is I have to manually hit a button to get coffee.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yes, I don't hate the idea of smart-ish devices, if they're not cloud-dependent in any way and have some kind of manual override.

It's kind of painful to have a kitchen full of devices each implementing their own half-assed OSs separately, or even more than once in one device.

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I have a wifi-enabled garage door opener whose manufacturer discontinued the Google Home connection for so that you have to use their app and see their Amazon or Walmart ads. I also have a wifi-enabled alarm system whose manufacturer apparently doesn't care about Matter integration or whatever. So leaving the house in my car requires the use of two different apps (three if I also need to turn off lights).

In actuality I just use the physical buttons. But there was a time that I had a beautiful dream of getting a smart lock and setting my house up to lock the doors, close the garage door, and arm the alarm when I pushed a button in the car--and, more importantly, undo all of those things in reverse when I got home.

[–] tyler@programming.dev 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

with Home Assistant it doesn't matter if your device adds a Google Home connection, Alexa, Apple Home, etc. Exactly what 'smart homes' should be.

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I need to get on that, I guess.

[–] Walican132@lemmy.today 2 points 2 days ago

I wish I was this smart. We really want to do a smart light show using Xlights but every time I try to learn it I feel so frankly dumb.

[–] rambling_lunatic@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You sent this message by manually sending radio messages, I presume?

[–] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 day ago

No, it’s one of the few use cases of emacs.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] SatyrSack@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They were bonked with a hammer until they were below the proper "smart" threshold.

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[–] Korne127@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Friends hate this one simple trick!

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Reminder: never go have pancakes at wise_pancake's house.

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[–] 404@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago

Can you play DOOM on the light switch?

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

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[–] neshura@bookwormstory.social 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Same, the only thing talkings to the internet are my reverse proxy and the security cameras (only when viewing them from outside the local network, quite like what reolink does there)

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