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I say, this, after weighing the words carefully in my mind, and with a profound sense of empathy for what it means, but – good. Maybe most of the people in these areas are so deeply ingrained that they can’t tell right from left, but at some point when the pain is too much, at some point when the desperation and bitterness and anger is leading to no action and no results, at some point they will realize that their mayors who are Republican and their county representatives are Republican and their state legislators are Republican and their governors are Republican and their congressional representatives are Republican and their president is Republican. At some point there would be a break, hopefully, in their Great Wall of ignorance and stupidity for some light to shine through. And while I fervently agree with most of them on how much I hate the national Democratic Party and it’s neoliberal corporate subserviency, That’s something different has to come about for us to get somewhere out of this hell scape.
Most supporters of the Nazis went to the grave believing their cause was just. Whether it was on the battlefield, at the end of a firing squad, or decades later of old age.
They let go of their aspirations and public support because they were forced to, at the end of a gun.
People have been waiting for this break to happen since the 90s.
It’s not happening.
Their welfare payments haven’t been cut off before, we’ll see.
There won’t be. The media that they consume will just tell them that Democrats or Mexicans or Muslims or trans athletes are to blame for their problems, and they’ll believe it.
More importantly, they’ll want to believe it. They won’t want to think that they’ve been wrong for years or decades. It will always be someone else’s fault
A lot of them are completely brainwashed by Fox News. It's their primary form of entertainment. They will die believing the propaganda. They're a lost cause unfortunately.
That would require educating yourself and questioning the entire paradigm you have lived in your entire life. And this hypothetical awakening would only happen after being faced with the consequences of falling further into poverty. Big doubt it.
It would take a 5-10 year depression for enough of them to reach the point that it would make a meaningful difference. Seriously.
Look at how it went last time. FDR and then his vice president created a 20-year presidential legacy following Hoover's complete mismanagement of the Great Depression. After that came the 5-star general who defeated Hitler (who ran as a Republican in order to block an isolationist candidate farther on the right), then back to Democrats for another eight years—until giving black people equal rights was a bridge too far for Southern Democrats.
Basically, Trump would need to destroy this country economically, and have that ruination take hold for many years, before real charge can happen.
I mean he is going to do that, and the recovery won't come to those places because they're already economic dead ends. We need to focus on getting people who aren't MAGA out and let them rot in the misery they bring in themselves. History is full of ghost towns, we're just going to see some more that's all. The rest of America will be able to recover and ditch these nonsense people and their broken politics