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Originally Posted By u/NotYourUsualSuspects At 2025-03-27 01:02:51 PM | Source


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[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Hot take: this applies to the left side of the spectrum as well.

Liberals are angry at conservatives because of all of the above and lash out at them - online, on family dinners, ... - and become an equal part of the culture war, instead of fighting the evil that's causing it all.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

No... The left "lashing out" about things like trans issues is about literally allowing people to exist as they are. The left "lashing out" on the right about the economy is because Republican presidents have historically been much worse than Democrat presidents in this regard (this is relatively common knowledge, but I could find a source if needed). Etc.

In fact, the first one doesn't even fit your model as Democrats do not single out "others" to target.

I'm so tired of this false equivalency. The outrage may look similar at a surface level, but only on one side is it completely (objectively) justified.

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Agreed.

I’m all for emphasising class war.

But this “culture war” also includes the human rights of trans people, disabled people, migrants, marginalised folk in general.

I think it’s dangerous to say it’s unimportant. Yes the purpose might be to distract us, but if we let the right win, we are letting them literally commit social murder against groups of people. This isn’t about whether a gay flag is allowed to go on the street. It’s about if a disabled person is allowed to request accommodations and therefore have a job instead of starving to death. It’s about if a trans person has the right to exist openly without being locked into and abused in a psych ward.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 days ago

social murder

For now...

[–] conicalscientist@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That's by design. One of the fundamental mechanisms of right wing rhetoric is DARVO. They turn it around to accuse you of being the aggressor.

The fact that the root comment has 20 upvotes for two days without rebuttal until your reply is an example of why lemmy is no better then reddit. Wtf is everyone smoking that you all don't have grasp of the basic rhetoric by now.

Some times I think it's all theater. Any and all of this opposition. How much of it is controlled opposition... Maybe it's just two goals on a field largely controlled by the same team. Whatever. I'm sure someone will be along shortly to aggressively tell me I'm a clinically insane leftist.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 days ago

I think a lot of the people who are anti-trump often use these issues as talking points when convenient without actually caring about the issues or trying to do anything regarding them.

But when one side is commiting violence against racial & GSR minorities, it's hardly being an "equal part" of a culture war to oppose that violence.

[–] isles@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Does this mean all the liberals wishing death on anyone who voted Trump are doing the elites work?

[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

If keeping everyone divided is the elites work then yes.

I dont think its that simple myself, but if you believe it is then yes does seem to be the answer

[–] RainbowHedgehog 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

We can be angry, but we need to keep our eye on the prize. To get out of this we’re going to need to swallow our pride and work with people we don’t always agree with.

I don’t think MAGA are the most reliable allies. But there are times where our interests will align and we can work together.

However, we benefit more from allying with swing voters or those who didn’t vote.

[–] Wuorg 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It is deeply frustrating that the vast majority of Americans agree on most things (at least we did a few years ago), and yet we fight each other over arbitrary nonsense anyway.

[–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 days ago

protestant ass country