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I mean, in a way, it's fair. We're not rising up to stop it in massive droves.
While there are valid reasons for why the US struggles with that (size, atomization of population, lack of job protections and jobs tied to healthcare, surveillance state), it's still valid for other nations to see that as capitulation.
Wage slavery and healthcare tied to your job is a hell of a drug, guys.
That’s less of an excuse than it is an explanation.
Right, which is why I advocate for fewer protests and more community organizing so we can care for each other outside of these broken ass systems. People are going to wait until after the last minute to start organizing ways to protect and care for each other, but that's America for you.
Yep. Protests are just being used at this point to root out dissidents. Mutual aid and sabotaging oppressive institutions where possible can be more effective ways for folks to participate in organized resistance without risking life and livelihood.
Exactly! Developing community connections is critical. Finding your community is a bit harder in the age of social media so you need to work at finding local connections.
And despite my job being done easily online I have an RTO mandate and they might let me go just as easily as letting me work from another, less fascist, state.
Can’t have that corporate real estate underutilized
Man I am glad every protester in history has had health care. Could you imagine if there was no health care during the American revolution America would be British.
You’re being comically reductive and naïve, and you know it. Don’t be an asshole.
Exactly.
We’ve all watched the kids die too while the USA culturally adopted an armed populace in defence of a rogue government and risks to freedom.
Yep and where are they now?
We're not? What are all the protests ( growing in size) for then?
Protests /= violent resistance or building parallel systems so we can all go on general strike for a month.
General strike is our non-violent option, and violence is our, well, violent option. I'd prefer the former but I see a lot more protesting and a lot less organizing of community gardens and mutual aid networks.
We're up against a modern-surveillance-enabled police state and the largest military in the world. General strike to break the economy is the better option, imho. That requires organization and planning, not protests.
Protests don't hinder such organization though, and they can connect and embolden people. They're valuable as long as they're not all that gets done.
This is true, I don't mean to impugn the protests, but I have met far more Americans who just want to go out and commit reckless violence instead of doing any real planning... Which is very American, I guess.
It's also why I think we will fail miserably, because we've got too many "heroes" who don't know what real heroism is.
If push did come to "shove" you'd be less likely to join in if you only ever saw a handful of people protesting. We need to know who's more or less onboard if shit hits the fan.
Then do something about your mad king, else your inaction speaks volumes.
How does that saying go... "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."
See my other replies in here on what I'm already doing, which isn't unique to me specifically, many are doing these things. What else would you suggest I/we do?
Since I'm not just sitting on my ass and complaining or just throwing out Boondock Saints quotes without having some substance underneath it, your reply doesn't apply to me.
I know those of you outside of the US have dealt with some shit in your own countries, help us with some good suggestions please! Kicking us, especially those of us trying to make a difference, while we are down, isn't helpful.
“Don’t beat us while we’re down” - the country literally disappearing people.
The world has a right to be angry at your domestic issue that has turned global over the past 10 years.
Oh, my most sincere apologies. I'll just go grab that person that I personally disappeared and put her right back where she came from.
You're missing the point, but it's impossible to get through to someone who has no compassion for individuals, and would rather just hate someone because they're adjacent to the problem. It's attitudes like yours why the world is so fucked up right now. So quick to hate without realizing or caring who you're dumping it on.
Don’t forget, either party, this is y’all too.
Amnesty International investigation concludes Israel is committing genocide against Palestinians in Gaza
I'm not giving an excuse. But really understand our size. There are a shitload of horror news stories that are posted here, but most people haven't seen it hit close to home.
They are all in America, yes. But these are news stories that take place in what is effectively Moscow when your in London. We are getting pissed off, but while these news articles make it seem like the guard rails are off, and they are, the majority of people still aren't actually seeing this shit. It's still mostly those that are actively following the news. I don't think people are really, truly understanding that it's in their house already.
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OK so there’s the main task for those looking for purpose: get the word out. But since it’s early stage fascism, do it faster and harder. Start by taking collective responsibility for this shit despite the polarization.
More clues: eating together, especially preparing food, tends to open people up. Organize events.
What do you think the average German citizen should've done in 1939 to avoid condemnation?
This right here, the only Germans not remembered as Nazis are the ones who gave their lives or risked everything to stand for something other than Nazism. Those who hid Jews and others for their safety, who helped traffic them to safe countries, or spoke out and lost their lives for it. Everyone else is seen as a sympathizer at best.
There are many of us protesting, writing our Congress members, voting, Educating ourselves in matters of law, having difficult conversations with friends and family members that are either ignorant or maliciously compliant, amongst many other things.
There are many of us (including myself) that are ready to pick up arms should it come to it and defend our nation against this absolute garbage situation.
The US certainly isn't perfect, no one could ever make that claim with a straight face. However there are a TON of good people here that are actively fighting this.
People like that, including myself, NEED YOUR SUPPORT more now than ever. Like it or not, we all depend on each other. Please don't throw out the baby with the bathwater. It's not fair to those of us that aren't complicit. It's hard enough dealing with this situation right now without all the armchair quarterbacks out there kicking us while we're down. What does that say about those people?
Maybe offer some helpful advice on how you all have dealt with struggles within your own nations. After all, everyone has some shit they're dealing with.
Please don't paint an entire country's population with the same brush. It's disingenuous and not a good faith argument.
I'm literally an American talking about the America I live in.
Also the only real solution when it comes to a surveillance police state and massive military is mutual aid and a general strike. We have to take care of each other outside capitalist systems or we will fail. Breaking the economy and hurting them in their pocketbooks is really the only solution, and even that will invite violence. Better to have a plan and play defense than try to take on a bigger bully and lose fast and early.
My reply was to the larger audience, not just you. I don't disagree with your thinking. I've already stopped patronizing businesses that support trump and his corrupt leadership as well as signed up at generalstrikeus.com.
However, we not only need to support each other internally like you mention, but we need support of our allies across the world to help continue spreading the Truth and support our journey to a better place.
Shitting all over us as a whole is something that is more harmful than helpful, and it's something that everyone should call out when they see it.
Fair point.
Good luck with that never going to happen.