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[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 123 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Is there a point you can find in history where we paid doctors, teachers, and nurses close to what they're worth and more than professional athletes?

It sounds like you're nostalgic for a time that never existed.

[–] jif@piefed.ca 64 points 1 day ago (3 children)

There was definitely a time when professional athlete was hardly a career, and certainly not well paid. So for a time teachers and healthcare workers got paid more than athletes.

[–] Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You really have to split it up. Teachers and nurses have always been paid pretty poorly. They were traditionally female only professions, and expected only to work until married or what not. Or they were nuns, and didn't get paid directly. Doctors of course, being traditionally male only got paid a lot better. But I agree that for most of human history, professional athletes were just rich peoples kids. They weren't even getting paid most likely. It would be interesting to try and figure out who the first true professional athlete was. Someone who wasn't born into money, and actually got paid a living wage.

[–] starlinguk@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

Professors used to be paid the same as surgeons. Surgeon salaries kept up with inflation, professor salaries did not.

[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 day ago

In the CFL (Canadian Football League) the players don’t make more than $100,000/yr generally, and the good ones get scooped up to the NFL.

[–] jacksilver@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I mean if you back to the Greeks and Roman's, they also had some big payouts for sporting events.

[–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago

If you were lucky, you'd get the lion's share

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@piefed.world 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

They used those events for military readiness. The skills that the athletes trained for were the same ones needed by soldiers.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 0 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Gladiators were not soldiers. Some were the equivalent of American Wrestling stars.

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@piefed.world 3 points 19 hours ago

I was thinking more about Olympians. The Romans had a standing army so they didn't need that sort of thing as much.

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

OP is also only comparing top earners. For every athlete who earns millions, there's probably hundreds of athletes who make around median income or less - it's the kind of career where people will keep doing it even if it pays barely enough to pay the bills. There are a lot of doctors who make more than the poorer professional athletes, and doctors don't age out.

[–] bear@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Is pretty meaningless to look at top earners.

Some specialist doctors are making a million dollars a year, but the average is closer to $375,000.

Much like musicians, there are huge numbers of "professional" athletes that are not making a living wage. The low end for medical doctors is plenty to survive.

I think it's distasteful when people complain about people earning six figures not getting as much as others, while we have people dying in the streets from capitalistic poverty.

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

People die in the streets under socialism and communism as well. You understand this, right?

[–] optissima@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

To poverty at the same or similar rates with little if anything being done to combat it?