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I drank the atheist nihilistic hedonism kool aid when I was a kid (Christianity is too contradictory and that soured my view on belief in general) and I didn't get out of that "lol I just wanna have fun, what's personal responsibility?!" Ideological hole until my mid 20s. ๐ฅฒ
"Nothing matters so just have a good time" doesn't necessarily mean you also can't be a "good" person.
At some point your hedonistic desires clash with moral frameworks and you don't do the wrong thing, best case scenario. "Nothing matters so just have a good time" erases that paradigm/doesn't allow for one to exist in the first place. You're going mostly on vibes and maybe more money means you could get nicer things and comfier toys and have more fun so you start your OF/sell drugs/scam your way into millions and now you scam more because you're the prez of the free world (lol)... get it?
I get your point but being nice to people and acting in a fair and moral way feels good to most people, myself included so I don't personally see nihilistic self fulfillment and moral behaviour as mutually exclusive (in most cases, billionaires not included).
But at some point, when virtue doesn't taste as nice as forgoing it, you'll fall. And you might have not had you had some form of moral framework in place and not just our inner "noble savage" nature.
How do theists rationalise this when they do awful things like buggering children?
I think you need to look up what the concept of noble savage actually means.
I know what it means but I'm repurposing it because, well, it sounded nice. Perhaps I shouldn't have. ๐คท
Don't mix up optimistic nihilism with moral wrongness, you can be "nothing matters let's have a good time" while at the same time wanting everyone else to also have a good time.
I'm glad you have an imaginary sky friend to prevent you to from being a bad person. /S Denjin is correct nothing matters do no harm is an option.