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[โ€“] Eiri@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 days ago (5 children)

I'm kinda shocked people have strong opinions on fighter planes of all things. I barely know those two models of plane exist. I would answer "don't know".

[โ€“] porcoesphino@mander.xyz 9 points 2 days ago

Come on mate. Elbows up

The question was not only about the fighter jets themself. The participants got the necessary information in the question, see the caption in the graphics.

[โ€“] Sunshine@piefed.ca 6 points 2 days ago

Someone hasnโ€™t been paying attention.

[โ€“] cabbage@piefed.social 6 points 2 days ago

Big investments like this are often very politicized-even before Trump and all-because it's to a large degree just geopolitics. Gripen is in all likelihood the better alternative, but F35 has been considered an excellent choice for countries wishing to suck up to America. Until recently sucking up to America was considered good defense policy among parts of the political spectrum.

[โ€“] wewbull@feddit.uk 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Do you know that the aircraft need servicing after every flight, otherwise it's grounded, and that supplies would come from the country of origin? US for F35. Sweden for Grippen.

Does that change your outlook?

[โ€“] Kjell@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Lots of parts on Gripen are from US, but they will at least get less money.

[โ€“] wewbull@feddit.uk 2 points 1 day ago

It's not about money. It's about which country you trust to keep supplying you and not use your dependency to control how and when you use your planes.

[โ€“] Eiri@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I guess, but I still wouldn't feel qualified enough to offer a confident answer. There are lots of factors.

[โ€“] wewbull@feddit.uk 4 points 1 day ago

So in Europe there was a desire to send F35s into conflict in Ukraine. US said no by saying that servicing supplies would not be made available.

Sovereign nations are unable to use their planes how they want to.

Now with Gripen it might be a similar situation, but Sweden has been trustworthy thus far.