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[–] Noite_Etion@lemmy.world 42 points 23 hours ago (5 children)

How are people still on the fence about this guy?

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 30 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

A significant minority of Germans liked Hitler even after 1945. Plenty of people will just never stop supporting Trump.

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 16 points 19 hours ago (5 children)

OK, but how are people "on the fence" as in undecided about him. He's not someone that people tend to feel ambivalent about

[–] Apytele@sh.itjust.works 5 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Honestly I wonder if some of it isn't people in super remote areas or otherwise disconnected from conventional communities. If you live on a mountain with no internet or TV and drive into town once a month for groceries or live in an underground mole people tunnel system it's probably easier to not give a fuck. Like obviously these things will still affect you, but not in any immediate way that's gonna slap you in the face tomorrow.

If somebody catches that guy at the grocery store at the end of the month and gets him to fill out a survey he's probably just like "...who? Oh a coupon though!" And the mole person will do it for a $5 subway card. That's still at least a cookie these days. And they'll both just check "meh" for everything and hand the survey back and take their coupon. I talked to a dude at the bus stop for a while that said getting his phone stolen had actually turned out to be really great for his mental health aside from needing to ask me when the next one was coming. Like I get that this is important stuff but sometimes ignorance looks pretty damn blissful.

[–] Prior_Industry@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago

People who don't want to admit they support him but also don't want to say they don't?

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 2 points 18 hours ago

Most presidents had double digit people on the fence because a lot of people were only indirectly impacted compared to prior presidents, as in no worse off or better than before.

Only 4% being undecided is mind boggling!

[–] FishFace@piefed.social 2 points 17 hours ago

If there are some people that like him, and some people that hate him, you can bet your arse there are some people who kinda don't know. 2% or 4% or whatever it is is not many people to be undecided.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 2 points 19 hours ago

Oh, that's a good question. Maybe it's people who like his Nazi policies but don't like the dementia and tariffs?

[–] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Too dumb and ignorant.

[–] 4grams@awful.systems 10 points 18 hours ago

Sorry to be the one to break it to you, but the US is filled with shitty people.

[–] Hudell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 19 hours ago

Too deep into the cult but to actually see him negatively, while seeing their whole life in shambles due to his administration.

Crushed by work ?