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It’s shit.
A bandage on top of the festering open wound that is capitalism does not help anyone long term.
I'm pretty much with you, I think. I'm open to it, but extremely skeptical.
There's really no guarantee that the baseline UBI would be a "living wage" and I think we'd just see a constant spiral of inflation and re-indexing. I feel like it would end up being nothing more than an "allowance" from the oligarchy. Table scraps that would be used as an easy excuse to cut the social safety net at every turn. ("Why do they need X on top of their UBI?" says the rich politician...)
We need a strong social safety net. We need to decouple human rights from employment. We need more worker ownership of businesses/coops. We need to have the ability for people to do meaningful and productive things with their lives. We need a 32 hr standard work week.
I don't see how UBI gets us any of those things.
It’s a non-reformist reform that gives people the time and freedom to organize for more radical change
I'm always happy to hear suggestions of alternate systems for resource allocation that do not involve capitalism. What do you propose?
For me, homesteading, learning a trade (freelancing is another option), stacking gold, silver, Bitcoin, or other hard assets that appreciate over time.
All of those are part of capitalism. Even most homesteading these days requires significant purchased inputs.
Precious metals, crypto, and anything else that's an investment asset is quite literally the epitome of capitalism.
You really need a better economic education. You sound just as dumb as the people complaining about communism without knowing what that is either.