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[โ€“] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Not hungarians. The government of hungary

[โ€“] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (2 children)

My only problem with Hungarians is that they keep re-electing Orban, and even then I understand that given his control of the Press over there, most who do it are just being daily brainwashed to do it.

That said, a Hungary Leave might just be the jolt that's needed to change things there (and it would isolate the rest of us from their problems plus would seriously dampen the prospects of any Orban-similar far-right in the rest of Eastern Europe), though there is a risk for Hungarian that the place turns into a hard autocracy controlled by Russia like Belarus and thus can't actually get back to Democracy for at least several decades.

[โ€“] drunkosaurus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Hungary's elections are very very far from "free and fair"

[โ€“] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Well, since I don't know enough in that front, I didn't mention it either way and hoped for somebody more familiar with it to comment!

That said, the "it will give Hungarians a jolt" theory still applies, tough in this case is for more "assertive" actions than merelly voting differently (which in a situation were elections aren't "free and fair" would be their only option to stop autocracy, even inside the EU) which does have a greater risk of things just getting worse (or maybe not: theoretically the end of money from the EU and of easy access to the EU should push the Hungarian Elites which are "fine with a little autocracy as long as we keep making money" to turn against Orban).

[โ€“] zehnkirchen@feddit.org -2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

that explains all the protests....not.

[โ€“] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 7 points 6 hours ago

There are tons of protests.

What's your beef here? Some personal vendetta against Hungarians? You missed out on cheap Lake side property around Balaton or something?

Hungary's elections are very very far from "free and fair"