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[โ€“] Apytele@sh.itjust.works 78 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It also paralyzes your cilia so it's not improbable (cilia are the little hairs that line your breathey tubes and rhythmically beat to push gunk up and out). It's actually why the smokers cough usually gets worse a few days after quitting then stays worse until you're finished hacking up all the built up tar. Your cilia wake up to your respiratory tract fucking trashed like WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS.

[โ€“] Droggelbecher@lemmy.world 4 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Just curious, is this true for smokeless tobacco too? I mean not the tar bit obviously, just the paralysing.

[โ€“] Apytele@sh.itjust.works 8 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

Honestly the research on exactly why this happens is sparse enough as it is. It's basically impossible to do truly conclusive studies with tobacco because of how dangerous it is. We can't even technically conclusively say that tobacco causes cancer because to truly scientifically assert that you'd have to do a randomized controlled trial.

To have a truly randomized controlled trial you would have to randomly select people from the overall sample and tell them to start smoking for the purposes of the study (otherwise you can't technically rule out there being some third thing that both causes the cancer and causes people to want to smoke). And because we know tobacco is insanely addictive and are all but that one millimeter short of proving that it causes cancer, no medical ethics oversight body would ever allow a study that requires participants to start smoking.

[โ€“] Droggelbecher@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago

Oh absolutely, I'm glad we're not doing that. I don't get why there's so few statistical studies, like 'people who have been using (e.g.) chewing tobacco have x health stat compared to y in the general population'. It's frustrating, especially with how many young people are using snus and vapes in recent years. It's tough to make informed health decisions when the information is hard to come by.