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[–] W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 102 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Without a warrant, CBP wasn't entitled to anything on his phone and they can go fuck themselves.

[–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 55 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's cute that you think there are still laws in the US.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 day ago (4 children)

They have to charge him with something.

[–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 day ago

Says who? How many people are being held in your country without any due process at all?

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Do they though? Someone should tell all the people in literal concentration camps after receiving no due process

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I have a friend in Florida. They have a guy that runs a business and does all their house repairs, fells trees, yada yada. His inlaws turned him in for being illegal (he's not) He had his paperwork with him and they still shipped him off to Alligator Alcatraz. His wife hired a lawyer and had to do all kinds of crap to get him back out... on bail... because his mother-in-law called him an illegal.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The mother in law needs to be fed to a fucking gator

[–] uncouple9831@lemmy.zip 2 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Just drive her out to the everglades and leave her there with no food or water, she won't make it back.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

That increasingly means nothing. Remember that judge who was sending kids to reform camps for kickbacks? Part of that scheme was they literally made up charges. If the system says it's a charge and you need to be punished then that's what's going to happen. Juries aren't even a thing until you get to major felonies anymore so it's just whatever the judge lets the prosecutor get away with.

[–] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

Resisting arrest. Evidence tampering. Obstruction of justice. Take your pick.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If it was at a point of entry CBP can search electronic devices without a warrant or suspicion, for a brief time (up to 5 days) without probable cause, under the "border search exception".

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

A lot of those border exceptions need to be burnt in a fire, like that one, and the whole "you have no civil rights within 100 miles of a point of entry. btw airports count, so almost no where is free from your rights legally being abused kthnxbai"

This is truth. You are a US citizen, and your rights apply anywhere if the authority is a us citizen. What stops them from detaining you, driving you to the border and then performing illegal searches. Nothing. Just because I went on vacation doesn't mean I forfeited my constitutional rights.

[–] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They have the legal right to search a phone before it enters the US, but there is no law that says you can't wipe your phone first.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 day ago

They're shipping people off to places unknown for 'no law' too.

Otherwise, simply refuse them passage rather than locking them up and charging them.

[–] irish_link@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I was going to say something along the lines of being charged with anything but your statement is way better and more importantly more accurate.

[–] W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I wasn’t sure if that applies to non-citizens.

Personally, I think it should, but laws aren’t always just.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

Rights must apply to all persons in the US. Or else the government may assign you to the non rights group at it's discretion. As an example, you're a citizen. The government says you are not. You try to go to court to prove it, but oops you don't have that right. Your family opens a court case, but they either get ruled to not have standing or they get swiftly assigned to the non rights group as well.

Nobody has Rights until Everyone has Rights.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

According to the Constitution, almost all rights apply equally to citizens and non-citizens. The term used in the Constitution is "persons," not "citizens." The Supreme Court has eroded some of those rights over time, though.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago

According to the Constitution

Can't read it because of a large orange shitstain across it.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 day ago

It absolutely does apply to non citizens. However, this administration has been ignoring that.