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I know places like Portugal and Spain are going through serious housing crunches right new and I know expats often exaggerate those problems. So where can an American flee oppression without just oppressing someone else?

For context: I'm a progressive lefty, thinking about long term relocation options cause the fash is getting pretty thick around here.

Edit: I know immigrants and expats (US or other) are not solely responsible overseas housing issues, but housing issues definitely exist across Portugal, Netherlands, etc. I don't want to increase that burden and would feel shitty if my housing offer outbid 300 local applicants.

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[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

How cold is it? Native Texan and lived in Ohio for a few years but the winter was brutal, thinking about CO though I know winter is pretty rough there too.

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Last winter was pretty brutal. It didn't stop snowing for like two months. There would be an extra 2" (5cm) of snow every time I opened the door. Temperatures vary depending on where you are but can get pretty cold. Parts of Quebec are infamously cold. Toronto has been chilling around 20F (-6C) but can drop close to 0F (-17C) at times. Overall weather in Toronto is closest to Buffalo or parts of the northeast. Buffalo is only 2 hours away, for reference.

That said, the cities are absolutely prepared for winter. Many of them even have sprawling underground pedestrian networks, like the PATH in Toronto or the RÉSO in Montreal. Most people have winter tires. Outside the cities it's a bit harsher though

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Interesting, I probably won't move there then lol, but appreciate the info!

I would prefer suburbs vs big city, too many people for my liking :p

[–] Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 7 points 3 days ago

Honestly the city is very good when it's actually properly designed, unlike most north american cities.

TLDR is that living somewhere with good density (2-3 floor condos being the norm) while still having space so it's not crowded, like most places having backyards that connect to the alley sounds like a compromise, but the upside is that you can walk to literally everywhere you could possibly need to go except maybe your job, which is a suprisingly big boon to qol.

I say this because I used to have a similar attitude, but moving from moncton to montreal really changed my mindset.

If you want an example of what I'm talking about you can see the "le plateau" neighborhood in google street view.