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[–] glorkon@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (32 children)

Let's face it: The EU is the last remaining democratic global power. Russia is a dictatorship, so is China, and America is only a democracy on paper since they elected Mango Mussolini.

Here's the dark future that could very well happen if we allowed these right wing fucks to succeed with their plans:

  • Their first goal: Get a majority of European countries to vote for authoritarian, alt-right, pro Trump, anti EU governments. Russia has been working towards this for decades.
  • Actually dissolve the EU so Russia, China and America remain as the only relevant global powers.
  • Authoritarian European nations become hostile towards other nations. As hostile as America is now already.
  • National particular interests within the EU are cause for dangerous tensions again.
  • International relations become much more volatile.
  • Nations suddenly don't give a fuck about multilateral contracts anymore.
  • Some weaker, paranoid nations secretly develop nuclear weapons programs.
  • Radioactive shit is going to hit the fan sooner or later.
  • GAME OVER.

Only democratic nations working together and people who strongly oppose demagogues and fascism have a chance to prevent that from happening. The EU is a fundamental building block to ensure this for Europe.

Have we not learned from WWII and 60 million deaths? Are humans really so dumb? If that's really the case, we deserve to go extinct.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Latin America is the unsung hero IMO. They have a "pink tide" since their leaders are mostly moderate leftists. There are exceptions of course such as El Salvador and Argentina (although to my knowledge, Javier Milei is nowhere near in trying to curtail civil liberties and human rights). Latin America had been off US' radar since the Cold War and they can use that time to build closer relationships amongst each other by strengthening MERCOSUR and military ties.

There is Africa. Again, while there are exceptions, by and large many African nations are doing their best to uphold democratic values. The West African bloc, ECOWAS, had been great in the past ten years to oust African leaders who don't want to step down. When Brexit happened, the African Union allowed freedom of movement among AU citizens at the same time. I can see AU becoming more united, although it will take more time than we would hope for.

India will become authoritarian I would say in the next couple of generations. The neoliberal policies and flirting with fascism by Modi have sown the seed for full blown far right movement in decades to come as far as I can tell.

For the Far East, they are too insular and have their own stupid, age old inter-racism against each to be more united, and the fragmented geography of Far East Asian countries, that is not China, makes cultural exchange and understanding difficult to create kinship necessary for a more political union. But I think they may stay democratic for the foreseeable future (now, Japan has a little surge of far right, but they are not a threat in the immediate future). Unless there is Asian NATO, the Far Eastern democracies won't hold against the threat of China. Although again, Asians are too insular and geographically fragmented for closer cooperation.

[–] glorkon@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Your comment is very insightful and I agree with your observations. As a European one tends to focus too much on the places around the world which keep doing things right. Latin America truly is an unsung hero, what with the kind of economical troubles they have been going through. One would think they would be far more susceptible to demagogues and propaganda than nations of the so-called "western hemisphere".

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