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end of soviet union to 9/11
the liberal international order
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There's always bad shit happening somewhere. I specified this timeframe as it signified an end to the looming threat of nuclear annihilation and before the start of the "war on terror" which signified a start of a ramping up of civil rights abuses in the west.
My view is biased towards the west, but everyone has their own frame of reference. I am entitled to my frame of reference, as are you, and you are free to post your own timeframe you believe is "good while it lasted".
I was agreeing with you... but okay. The time period you specified is dominated by the largely uncontested ascendancy of the liberal international order, aka the West.
Idfk man, you're saying it in a context that invokes the same mood as "liberals bad, Russia utopia"
"The West" 🙄
Oh fuck all the way off.
People mean the liberal international order (of western democracies) when they refer to "the West." It is a shorthand. If the phrase can't even come up without your toxicity, I'll just block you and remove the source of the annoyance.
There's an underappreciated film that came out during this period called Canadian Bacon, one of John Candy's last films. Basically the president of the United States is trying to improve his approval rating as the military industrial complex is imploding and sending the nation into a recession, so he drums up a cold war with Canada instead. Its honestly a brilliant time capsule of geopolitical sentiments at the time, as well as funny as hell
"Surrender pronto , or we'll level Toronto"
That's pretty damn good
"The end of history"
Omg, they were gonna actually give undocumented immigrants legal status, then fucking 9/11 happened and suddenly xenophobia popular again.
Imagine how much better that 9/11 never happened timeline would be.
Yep. About 12 good years is all we got.
Doubt the million or so Iraqis that died during that time period would agree
how about the million or so that died between 9/11 and 2011?
Re read the content I replied to, they were praising the period between 1989 and 2001
Its me, I am them. I was praising that period. Lots of iraquis die constantly outside of the timeframe I chose and bad stuff happens all the time. Doesn't change the key factors of being after the threat of global nuclear destruction and before the stamping down of human rights in the west
Motherfucker, the black people were segregated until the 70s and early 80s. Get that propaganda "stamping down of human rights in the west" bullshit outta here.
Grab a book and see how the west has been at the forefront of "stamping down of human rights" throughout most of recent history.
Ok. Black people were also slaves earlier than that. Also, the dragnet surveillance, and all the other human rights abuses created as part of the war on terror affects black people and racial minorities.
So you don't want to engage with a literal what-about-ism?! Pff what has the internet come to, when dishonest arguments get shot down...
This word you are using, it doesn't mean what you think it means. It's not whataboutism to say "no you are wrong, that period you say was great, really wasn't, here's one example".