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[–] AWistfulNihilist@lemmy.world 6 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

People using the word "grok" has always been a red flag. The people who read stranger in a strange land and identified with it so much they started using the word are fucking weirdos. The book is about a child adopted by Martians who inherited their reality-bending mind powers, comes back to earth as an adult and creates a nudist sex cult. Basically Jared Leto. I'm not joking, that's the book.

It was always elder developers who didn't wear shoes and had trouble with personal space.

[–] toynbee@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

https://hackersdictionary.com/html/entry/grok.html

I read it in my early twenties, almost twenty years ago. I am not a developer but am in the same area. I always wear some form of shoes when I leave my house unless I enter someone else's house. I don't think I have trouble with personal space but I don't really see anyone other than my wife and kid.

I remember liking some of the themes of the book but, reflecting on it now, yes, Heinlein can be problematic.

[–] AWistfulNihilist@lemmy.world 0 points 2 hours ago

There is no problem with having read the book, there's no problem with liking it. I did both, the first time i read it I thought it was cool. I'm more taking about people who made the nude sex cult book part of their personality enough to use the word grok unironically.

[–] kat_angstrom@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

I read it as a teenager and wasn't particularly impressed. As an adult I reread it after hearing it was a "classic" and I couldn't even make it halfway through. Absolutely agree that liking that book is a red flag