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Yay! Crashes! π₯°
They would remove the camera not the traffic light. I don't think that would cause an accident
The camera only snaps a picture when people blow the traffic light. If everybody obeyed the traffic lights then nobody would ever get their car's picture taken with the camera.
They have speed and traffic light cameras made by the same companies and they are pushing them out indiscriminately.
Also why should that company get money if someone speeds or goes through a red light? Why do they get that privilege but no one else does? The government getting fines is one thing but a private company is another
The reason the camera is there is because of the crashes that happened when it wasn't.
That's not true. We have a ton of these popping up in my neighborhood in places where there haven't been issues.
Also they are owned by private companies that pocket most of the money you pay the fine with.
Why do I need 5 of these on my way to work in the morning? That's 5 times where if I accidentally went too fast I have to pay a private company $200. That's up to 10 times a day I am at risk of a random fee to some company. Insane that you want that
All good but "risk of a random fee" ?π€¨
Same discussions as in German; FFS people have to drive within the speedlimit. That's the meaning of a limit. If you cannot do that reliably you will not get a fine for accidentally driving 3km/h under the limit. I do not understand how checking people for safe driving is seen as a predatory practice. Everybody getting fined is literally in the wrong.
In America we like to build roads in such a way as they cannot reasonably work at posted speeds force everyone to speed somewhat and just pull over the minorities for speeding whilst black. For 20 years the maximum speed on the interstate highways was 55 mph or 88 kph. In case you aren't familiar with the vernacular.
It's still common for there to be areas that for practical purposes roll at 10-15 mph over posted limit where literally every car is going that speed and being pulled over is basically a random act of police rather than actual normal law enforcement.
American roads are massive and built so you can safely drive way higher than the limit, which means most people do. It sucks and the solution is to design roads better.
Currently we just have a system where going the speed limit causes backups and people make dangerous maneuvers to get around you.
Hell, I even got pulled over for 'impeding the flow of traffic' once when I was going slightly over the speed limit. Pig just gave me a warning, and I certainly would've succeeded in contesting it if he hadn't, but our whole road infrastructure sucks
This comment is provided to you by the "the light was really yellow" crowd
My only real issue with it is that there are a ton of them now and they are privately owned. If the fine went to the city that would be a different story.
Imagine if next they put a sensor right in your car so if you ever go over a limit you always get a fine. Would you still be into that? Would you buy that car?
That is actually a legitimate concern. Add it to the long list of "technologies that are cool and good except when capitalism"
Maybe don't speed
Everyone goes over the speed limit at some point but usually there isn't a cop there so there is no issue. It's impossible to drive exactly the speed limit even if you wanted to
Cool, sucks that we went with the vibes feels like it should help solution then.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/red-light-cameras-may-not-make-streets-safer/.
https://ww2.motorists.org/blog/6-cities-that-were-caught-shortening-yellow-light-times-for-profit/
It's showtime
"Sir! The unfed masses are tearing down cameras to sell them for food!"
"BUT WHAT ABOUT PROPERTY VALUES? HAVE THEY NO SENSE OF COMMUNITY?!"
i mean, car crashes very much also often lead to death
i donβt think speed cameras are a good way to prevent car crashes, but straight up acting like car crashes arenβt a problem worth mitigating is extremely silly
The country's "rugged, free individualism" is a fucking menace. It has given so many people the righteous feeling of being above the law, of being offended at the law applying to them, and especially the "social contract" a phrase that literally enrages some segment of the population on both sides of the political spectrum. I hate it here.