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Broadly speaking, you probably agree with the large majority of the views commonly attributed to whichever group you identify with - what are the exceptions? Something that if you mention without a caveat immediately makes people jump to conclusions or even attack you?

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[–] danciestlobster@lemmy.zip 10 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

Having children is borderline unethical given the capitalist hellscape they will be born into, the relatively high likelihood that they will not be able to live to old age due to risk of large parts of the planet becoming uninhabitable with climate change, and considering that reduced birth rates is the most ethical path to a lower population on the planet, which, though technically not a strict requirement of a greener future, certainly makes it a lot easier.

No shade for any kids living today or parents who choose to have them despite the above. I understand why people do it and I don't blame anyone for it. But it is worth pointing out that current birth rates in most countries are not sustainable, and the seemingly constant fearmongering about falling birthrates in places where it's low needs to go away. Yes, it's bad for the economy if the new generation is smaller than their parents. That's a problem with the system and its design (one of many), and not at all a rationale for having kids.

[–] ParadoxSeahorse@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago

The trouble is, if all the considerate people who don’t want kids don’t have kids, the only people left will be the kids of the kids that did want kids.

[–] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

Mostly agree with you. I think the parents that agree with you should feel some regret though.

[–] Yankee_Self_Loader@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

I will be honest, I held this same view for many years and still agree with it on the face of it but there were two things that people said to me that softened my view.

  1. We need good people to make more good people. (Apparently my friends think I’m a good person. Weird)
  2. There be dragons in our society but what good are dragons without dragon slayers?

Obviously these weren’t the only factors but they both really resonated with me. My first dragon slayers is due this month

[–] danciestlobster@lemmy.zip 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

The trick here I think is parenting in a way that passes along whatever good you may have to your child. Unfortunately (or fortunately, in some cases) the moral compass and general ethics of the parents don't always translate to the kid. How to do that effectively is a whole other psychological debate. Either way, congrats and best of luck!