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Waymo Forced to Halt Overnight Operations As Punishment for Causing Nonstop Ruckus (futurism.com)
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Waymo might be expanding its autonomous taxi services to northern cities like Minneapolis and Detroit, but back in Santa Monica, the company’s strained relationship with local residents has reached a breaking point.

According to the Santa Monica Daily Press, the city council has issued a formal demand that Waymo end overnight operations at two charging facilities there. City counselors unanimously approved the measure, which doesn’t mention Waymo by name, but instead orders two lots the company uses to charge and dispatch vehicles to cease nighttime operations.

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[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Until it’s no longer more profitable to make their cars safer, companies will make their cars safer, I agree. That’s the summation of my reasoning. As companies attempt to relieve themselves of their need for humans, the math becomes murkier. “Because they’ve become safer over time, they’ll continue to do so indefinitely” doesn’t work for me.

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Until it's no longer more profitable to make their cars safer, or regulation requires they make their cars safer, or a competitor decides to take market share by making their cars safer.

“Because they’ve become safer over time, they’ll continue to do so indefinitely” doesn’t work for me.

That's fine because that's not what I said.

Which of these do you disagree with?:

  • Human driving capability has shown no indication of improving.

  • Autonomous vehicle capabilities are showing indications of improving.

It doesn't take a rocket surgeon to recognize that these measures of performance will eventually intersect (unless you think there's something fundamentally special about human driving that is impossible to replicate).

[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

In the specific locations and conditions that waymo is allowed to operate, they are absolutely safer! And I expect self driving cars to improve up to the point that they are economically incentivized to do so.

I’ll say again, I don’t disagree with you, I just need personal accountability to feel assured of the trend not being bucked, and I do not expect that to ever be on offer in the United States where money is equivalent to your voice