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All I can give you is an anecdote about my own experience. In said experience I've not had any non-starter issues with those two tools. They work for me until Youtube changes its algorithm.
This is why I mentioned the NFL channel as an example. It's my canary in the coalmine of Youtube. When the NFL channel (among other sports related channels) pops back up on my feed, I know that YouTube has changed something in the algorithm.
I just click
Not InterestedandDon't Recommend Channeland away it goes for another year or so until they make another change. Simple as.I've curated a recommendation feed that is highly specific to my interests as a result. Not sure why that method wouldn't work for you.