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so if you aren't internationally famous there is no point in living?
that's extremely egotistical. sounds like you need to get over yourself. you're not that important. your argumentation that you need to be important or your life has no meaning is totally absurdist and incredibly selfish. you have a deep impact on the people around you, but apparently these people do not matter in your worldview. only fame.
that POV does seem to be incredibly lonely and sad. it's basically saying life has zero value apart from the being on wikipedia.
I think their life just became so hopeless that they have fallen into this very deep feeling of meaninglessness. I guess it can happen when your life gets wrecked
@TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world
What?! No, absolutely not even close to what I said! I guess you totally missed what I tried to express. Sorry to ask but, did you even read my replies?!
First and most importantly, I must thank you for reminding me and you're right in this point, specifically: I'm well aware how irrelevant I am. I deeply know it and I live with this irrelevance on a daily basis, knowing how I'll be nothing as soon as I get to finally die and find my own spiritual annihilation at the tip of Reaperess's scythe, still thanks for making me to remind of my irrelevance once again!
Having said this, irrelevance isn't exclusive to me: so is the entire humanity before the countless species on Earth (even though humans think of themselves as some kind of superior species). So is the earthly biosphere before the entire cosmos (even though life tries to fight the cosmic entropy). So is the entire cosmos before the underlying, transcendental fundamenta within it.
In fact, nothing is relevant when we consider cosmic fate, which is either one or more of (a) dark energy and cosmic expansion infinitely stretching the fabric of spacetime continuum to the point of quantum rupture (Big Rip) (b) depletion of energetic transformations (Big Freeze) (c) another cosmic bubble colliding with this one (Big Bounce).
Either way, all star stuff has expiration date, even though this expiration date is as far as billion, maybe trillion years from now. Life, by extension, is limited to that cosmic deadline, so both human's hopes of legacy and Nature's evolution of species are pretty much pointless if this farthest cosmic future is to be considered.
Then humans, aware of their own mortality, often hold on to religious views as to believe they'll get to some afterlife, and while I do have spiritual views (dark pantheistic ones), I don't believe in afterlife. The belief of an afterlife, a "fatherly god" is rooted on our deep fear of The Reaperess, She who's part of the aforementioned cosmic fundamenta, She who touches the spiritual spark of every living being and pulls every baryonic matter to its inexorable decay.
Still we tend to be afraid of Her so we hold on to materialistic, we hold on to mundane, with the hopes of an afterlife being a spiritual extension of this.
So, back to previous point, at absolutely no point I said about the mundane having relevance, much to the contrary: the part where I said about me slightly believing in purpose and relevance uses past tense. It's gone to me.
Currently, my views aren't just of a personal purposelessness, it's about cosmic and ontological purposelessness. Everything from "fame" and "Wikipedia" to "me" and "people around" are so trivially infinitesimal compared to the cosmos where all star stuff, macro and microscopic, are inhabiting and part of now; and compared to what's going to happen with all those.
ontological and cosmic purpose lies entirely within yourself.
that's why nihilistism is nothing more than egotism projecting infinitely into the world.
@TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world
These two paragraphs are blatantly clashing with each other.
If "purpose lies entirely within yourself", a manner of thinking which is egocentric insofar it centers the purpose inside the person themselves,
then accusing nihilism (and cosmicism), which completely negates and refuses to belief in any kind of human purpose (nihil = "nothing"), of "egoist projection" is not just a misunderstanding of what nihilism is, not just a distortion of what it states, it's a distortion of the very statement "purpose lies entirely within yourself", which is a statement often said by optimistic people and, thus, the exact opposite from nihilism.
optimism and nihilism aren't oppositional.
nihilism doesn't exist. there is no 'nothing'. hence why it collapses into solipsim, which is a projecting egotism that nothing exists other than the self.