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All of them have restrictions but I switched from ChatGPT to Grok for this very reason. It's willing to discuss many more things than ChatGPT is.
wtf?
I'm not sure what you didn't understand.
I understood very good, but still - wtf (is wrong with you)
If you're expecting me to answer, then you need to be more precise about what it is that you're exactly asking.
He wants to know, if not nazi, why nazi shaped?
That's just as vague. It has more the tone of a moral judgment than a sincere question.
Well, there’s two kinds of people in the world. Those who are willing to make that moral judgement, and nazis. You get to pick which you are.
Just because an argument is fallacious, doesn’t mean it’s a bad argument, you debate nerd.
The fact that Grok being programmed to say racist shit is a moral judgement you won’t make says more about you than it does about Grok or the people who refuse to use it.
I use Lemmy too despite not agreeing with Marxism-Leninism.
Good thought, switch to the NaziBot for real truth /s
OP was asking for an uncencored AI assistant - not the most truthful one.
Grok is heavily censored to align with Musk's worldview.
That has not been my personal experience with it. Do you have an example of something that illustrates this?
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Seems perfectly willing to criticize Elon's views on trans rights:His language has gone far beyond critique of youth medicalization into blanket demonization (“woke mind virus killed my son,” calling puberty blockers “sterilization drugs” in every context, mocking pronouns relentlessly, etc.). That tone alienates people who might otherwise agree with the cautious parts and makes productive discussion harder.
He frequently amplifies the most extreme anti-trans voices and statistics (e.g., claiming regret rates of 30–50 % or higher, or implying the majority of transitions are driven by contagion/ideology), which are not supported by the better studies.
He frames being trans itself as largely a modern ideological pathology rather than a real (if rare and complex) phenomenon that has existed across cultures and history. I think that’s a big overreach.
Deadnaming and misgendering his own adult daughter repeatedly in public, and describing her as “dead,” is cruel in a way that goes beyond mere political disagreement. Whatever his grief or anger, that crosses a line for me.
https://web.archive.org/web/20250907142801/https://sfist.com/2025/09/02/report-groks-responses-have-indeed-been-getting-more-right-wing-just-like-elon-musk/
There are multiple examples of Musk or "an employee" directly influencing the behavior of the AI. Call it whatever you want, this is still censorship.
That's fair. Thanks!
Then it's still the wrong choice because Elon intentionally weights the model to give answers he wants, which is as bad (or arguably worse) than straight censorship
I have only experience with ChatGPT and Grok, and out of those two, it's more often ChatGPT which flat-out refuses to even discuss something, whereas that's less the case with Grok. Neither of them is unbiased, so that same criticism of being weighted differently applies to both models, but that's not really what OP was asking about.
Like what an awesome hunk musk is, or how great apartheid was for south africa
Do you also go to that raving weirdo on the street corner for advice because they're willing to discuss things that aren't on mainstream media?
I don't see the equivalence between preferring one chatbot over another and going to ask for advice from a weirdo on a street corner who's talking about stuff that the mainstream doesn't.
True, that weirdo on the street corner probably knows not to self-style "MechaHitler".
Right. So it wasn't a question but a moral judgment veiled as one.
Is it a moral judgement you disagree with? And if so, what about that moral judgement bothers you?
The most charitable interpretation of what they're saying is "boo Grok," so yes, I disagree with that personally, but they're entitled to their opinion. It's the moral grandstanding I take issue with mostly.
Don't bury the lede, friend, care to tell us exactly why you're against the moral grandstanding against Grok aka MechaHitler?
I'm against moral grandstanding broadly. It's virtue signaling, tribalism, and status games. I'm more interested in discussing ideas - not harvesting social credit by demonstrating my virtue through attacking complete strangers for arbitrary infractions such as using the wrong company's AI assistant.
lol, its not about social credit or whatever garbage you're on about, its not about supporting nazis and people who want to misinform people. Call that moral grandstanding if you must, but that says more about you than you think it does about me.
And leaving aside the support of MechaHitler, its still supporting an AI that is intentionally weighted to one side (and its a side that supports all kinds of human suffering). Its not a good look no matter how you argue this.
There's a difference between boycotting a product for ideological reasons and loudly voicing that stance on social media. It's the latter I take issue with.
I love how you’re studiously ignoring the Nazi thing.
Both. Both is good.