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Linus Torvalds is OK with vibe coding as long as it's not used for anything that matters (www.theregister.com)

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Linux and Git inventor Linus Torvalds discussed AI in software development in an interview earlier this month, describing himself as "fairly positive" about vibe coding, but as a way into computing, not for production coding where it would likely be horrible to maintain.

Torvalds was interviewed by Dirk Hohndel, head of open source at Verizon, at the Linux Foundation Open Source Summit in Seoul, South Korea, earlier this month.

Torvalds is technical lead and maintainer of the Linux kernel, but said that "for the last almost 20 years, I've not been a programmer." As for Git, which he invented, "I really just look at it from the side."

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[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 132 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (3 children)

Pretty reasonable take IMO

I can see how it can be a useful tool to get people into dev

You need to back that up with real learning though

If you can't/don't review and completely understand every line of code you submit to a project yourself, you should not be surprised if the project owner tells you to take a long walk towards the Mariana trench

[–] Gladaed@feddit.org 41 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

And that issue existed before vibr coding too.

[–] JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 11 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

As someone who is not a great coder. I can help in cases of double checking in addition to learning.

I made a USB HID report & device descriptor, it works fine everywhere except it causes KDE settings Game Controller menu to segfault when identifying USB devices.

I know there is a 99% chance that it is due to my descriptor being wrong. AI found my mistake of carrying over the logical min/max number of bits to the report size and my logical minimum was 1 too small. Haven't had a chance to test yet, but maybe I saved the KDE maintainers annoyance of a false alarm bug report.

[–] usrtrv@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 hours ago

But sounds like there is still a bug, KDE settings shouldn't segfault with malformed reports/descriptors. Might want to write a bug report or do PR yourself.

[–] Sabata11792@ani.social 9 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

I been vibe coding a Discord bot to teach myself Python. I'm finally good enough to get frustrated with the code the Ai gives me sometimes and do it myself.

[–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 7 hours ago

good enough to get frustrated with the code the Ai gives me sometimes and do it myself.

Good work. That's a solid junior level understanding of code.

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

Using LLMs as a semi-incompetent tutor is a good use. They know the basics well enough to explain it to you and have an idea of how to do the more complex stuff.... but if you actually needed the thing done, you'd hire a professional.