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[–] 14th_cylon@lemmy.zip 44 points 1 day ago (1 children)

so 35% believe he is guilty and voted for him anyway.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 19 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

No, because far less than 100% of Americans are voters, and the 15% is about Americans not voters....

Even then, pretty sure he didn't get 50% of the votes.

So however you meant what you said, you're wrong.

[–] MirthfulAlembic@lemmy.world 9 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

About 22% of all Americans (not just voters) voted for him in 2024. So there's still millions of people who voted for him and believed he knew.

[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 11 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

They believe he knew, now. May not have in 2024.

[–] MirthfulAlembic@lemmy.world 5 points 22 hours ago

Very true. I'm genuinely curious how many Trump voters didn't find it likely enough last year to vote for him and only now do.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago

Still, the fact that it is non-zero is rather disgusting.

[–] 14th_cylon@lemmy.zip 0 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

not how statistics work. percentages apply to sample of any size.

imagine there were 100 voters in the last elections. trump got 50 of them and if he got all of this 15% group (unlikely, but it actually plays in his favor in this argument). that means 50*0,70=35 of his voters believed he was guilty and voted for him anyway.

if someone asks why 0,70 and not 0,85 (1-0,15) it is based on assumption that the we believe he is not guilty group was largely voting for him, which is not unreasonable assumption. if some of them were actually voting for democrats, that makes the number of people voting for him despite believing he is a child rapist even higher.

(this argument indeed ignores shift of this number in time).

Even then, pretty sure he didn’t get 50% of the votes.

even though it is irrelevant in this argument - he got 49.80% of votes and he won popular vote with 77,3M against harris's 75M votes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_United_States_presidential_election#Results

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

not how statistics work

Correct, everything after that sentence infers youve never taken even a basic statistics course...

Are you just going off highschool math when they taught you percentages?