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[–] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 27 points 4 days ago (3 children)

still homophobic tho, conservatives are just the wrong people to be calling it out (and if anything conservatives are the ideal target audience for the homophobic memes, since they are the ones most likely to be bothered by their Daddy being a closeted gay)

[–] BogeyTheSwear@lemmy.zip 37 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Nobody i know are outraged that Trump is, at least, bisexual.

We just find it really funny. Not because there is anything wrong with homosexuality, but because building your whole cult around bigotry when you are a minority, is kind of really fucking funny.

And all the mental gymnastics that conservatives are running to defend this right now, is prime entertainment.

Not every joke involving gays, are bashing at homosexuality.

[–] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Not every joke involving gays, are bashing at homosexuality.

I do think jokes where the entire joke is that Donald Trump sucks dick is intended to be funny because homosexuality is taboo and sucking dick is considered bad, not just to Trump, but to people in general.

[–] BogeyTheSwear@lemmy.zip 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I've made plenty of those jokes by now, iΓ¦and i can tell you thats not the case for anyone i know πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

The joke is a cult leader sucking cock while his cult hates cocksuckers πŸ˜‚

But we don't mention the cult in the jokes, because then the joke doesnt trigger them.

[–] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 3 days ago (2 children)

to be blunt, I don't believe you

if you call someone a cocksucker, it's obviously intended as an insult

telling me actually you think sucking cock is totally fine and it's actually just about the hypocrisy of the cocksucker is not believable - that's not why these memes succeed, people are just enjoying labeling Donald Trump as a cocksucker in a pejorative way

[–] eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

As a person who has sucked a cock or two, I appreciate your instinct to protect, but maybe this is an "I'm not comfortable making this joke, but they are allowed to" situation?

[–] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

hm, I hear you - but I think that would have to be embedded in the context of the meme; it's not like anyone knows you are a "cocksucker" (in a non-pejorative sense), let alone that you endorse sucking cock from the memes you share; the homophobic assumption that sucking cock is wrong and taboo is what makes the meme successful, and I don't think anything changes from the fact that you don't personally share that view and happen to be creating or sharing the meme

basically the homophobia is in the audience that interprets and receives the meme, the meme succeeds because it plays on that homophobia, and so the meme is "homophobic" in that sense

I have trouble imagining these memes being shared and being popular in the gay communities that I'm a part for that reason - the audience might find the implication that sucking cock is itself wrong as homophobic and uncomfortable, maybe a gay audience would recognize the hypocrisy and also understand the latent homophobia that makes the meme work, but I just don't imagine it being as popular (and to be honest I'm not seeing it shared in those communities; nor would I personally feel comfortable sharing it in those communities)

it should be clarified that when I point out the homophobia, it's not meant as some attempt to cancel the memes (let alone to indicate we should protect Trump out of some kind of concern for him as a homosexual), instead I'm just trying to point out reactionary threads, the way misogyny and homophobia are common even in anti-Trump sentiment

fuck Trump, obviously - but I'm not going to follow that up with "the cocksucker"

[–] Malfeasant@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Is fucking bad? Because you just used it as an insult...

[–] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

misinterpreting the common use of "fuck" as a way to convey disdain as actually articulating a sex-negative attitude is so non-serious it exposes your bad-faith πŸ™„

are you just upset that you didn't have anything to offer, and this seemed clever to you?

either way, I'm blocking you for your bad faith; I am happy to waste time engaging with serious people, but I have no time for your silliness (if I can't tell if you're a troll, I'll just assume you are one and block)

[–] Malfeasant@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

I know you have blocked me, but for the benefit/detriment of anyone else reading...

So if it becomes common to use "blow" (or any other allusion to fellatio) as a way to convey disdain, does it cease to be homophobic? How are we not there already?

[–] BogeyTheSwear@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 days ago

Its just funny cus it hurts his cult members feelings πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ if they responded the same if i called him vegan, i'd be making salad memes all day

[–] saigot@lemmy.ca 22 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Yeah if a women blew clinton people wouldn't mene about it at all, it would barely even be a news story.

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 18 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Can't tell if ironic or too young to remember.

[–] Soulg@ani.social 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Choosing to believe it's irony for my own sanity

it's too good not to be a joke πŸ˜…

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[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago

the memes aren't homophobic, they're celebrating diversity.