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Plot twist: Theres still hackers in multiplayer even with all that crap plus rootkit they bundle with.
Bro... There is no excuse to have a computer from 2014 anymore for GAMES unless you only want to do light stuff/emulators on it. Like, man, just search on used marketplaces, a B350/B450 motherboard for Ryzen processors costs less than 50 bucks there and they all have TPM capabilities, and you can get a R5 3600 for like 50 bucks ๐ญ
Hell, I'm a fucking unemployed artist from Brazil who managed to get a mid-range PC THIS YEAR!
Missing the fucking point- you should not give up absolute control of your machine at the lowest level to play a shit game
Secure Boot and TPM are literally two fucking hash checks on boot. Ya'll kids really fucking need some technological literacy. If you're too lazy to do it AND too paranoid to even be INTERESTED in knowing what it fucking does you should be nowhere near a damn desktop.
Are you dense? This is about it's anticheat, the reason for requiring TPM. You need some causality lessons
Sorry, I'm not the one having a literal toddler-like meltdown cause a game asked for two hardware requirements you can fix in 15 seconds, and if you really don't want to, don't fucking buy or play it. Dunce.
You're the one ignoring the point. This isn't just about "two hardware requirements". Again, exercise causality and maybe read the comment (and the thread) before replying.
e: Also you can stop making up a guy to get mad at, we can all see what OP said, if that's who you're referring to
It's been 12 hours. Do you feel less agitated now that you've hopefully had a nap?
As much as I think that the decision is a bad thing and the justification is extremely shaky, I do find it very odd that anybody is using Windows 11 at all without those things because I was having a hell of a time trying to get it to work even with those things enabled. Granted Windows 11 is also just a piece of shit so who knows?
I'm like, a sysadmin for 30 years...
You are missing the point entirely. This shit should not be required to play a fucking video game.
You're supposed to have both on anyways regardless of a game requiring it or not.
Not at all. PCs do and have functioned without, forever.
TPM is enterprise functionality, useless for most consumers. useful for locking down control ower hardware against "unathorized personnel"
Secure Boot is not enough for these malware. They want SB rooted in MS keys. You using a Machine Owner Key? Too bad, go away! they say
all they want is get more control over your hardware, and less of it for you
Uh, no.
Sorry to see the downvotes on your comments explaining the technical stuff. You aren't wrong, but people are cultish and like dog piling.
The entire idea of Secure Boot is to verify the boot chain using signature checks to ensure that nothing "unauthorized" runs in the boot process before control is handed off to the kernel. It's meant to stop lower bootloader stages from silently modifying or hooking later stages.
In theory, it's supposed to stop rootkits from being able to exist above the OS, hiding themselves while stealing information or influencing programs. In practice, there's a shit load of badly implemented EFI programs and bootloaders that are signed and later turned out to be vectors for arbitrary code execution (this is why you need the DBX list to be updated frequently).
Cynically, Microsoft probably came up with Secure Boot because that whole rootkit-and-fuck-with-the-kernel thing used to be one of the ways people cracked Windows 7.
As for TPM 2.0, the whole point of it being used for anticheat is because it stores an immutable log of the Secure Boot process and attests to the integrity of the system. If I installed my own Secure Boot certificates and rootkitted Windows for the sole purpose of cheating, the TPM would see that a self-signed executable was used during boot and refuse to say the system was unmodified.
Edit: The downvote button is not a "I disagree" button. There is an actual technical reason why Secure Boot and TPM 2.0 are used in anticheat crap. I don't agree with it or that they demand it as a requirement to even open the game, but it's not some grand conspiracy to make you buy new PC hardware.
You are downvoted for your first part. Nobody is dog piling or being cultish, the person is just being a moron.
We know why they might be used, we just dont want video games demanding shit we dont actually need.
Oh, the comment I directly replied to is absolutely justified in its downvotes. I actually meant to reply to a different comment of theirs.
There's a lot of FUD and disinformation around Secure Boot and TPM 2.0 in general. When it comes to anticheat and those as requirements, people are dog piling IMO. The comments being cynical or exaggerating the security risk of the TPM to the user are getting more upvotes, while the comments that disagree with those are getting pushback.
Doesnt help the OP is claiming to be an "unemployed artist from Brazil" who writes like an unemployed gas station clerk from Tennessee.